Senator Alex Padilla sat down with Jesse Dallimore and with me in Washington, D.C.

And of course, among many other things, we talked about this incident in which he was handcuffed when attending a press conference of

Christy Noam, Donald Trump's Secretary of Homeland Security.

All right.

I think one place to start maybe is with the situation that you had in which you were not arrested, ultimately we learned,

not technically detained, maybe loosely speaking detained, but certainly not shown the respect

that we would expect. Senators shown in that hearing with the Homeland Security Secretary

Christy Noem.

What's your sense of the bigger picture about when you see that, we see due process denied to people,

we see court orders ignored? This to me is part of a broader package of we're sort of going to do

whatever we want, and there may be theoretical mechanisms to restrain our power.

But unless anybody has a mechanism of making those effective,

we're just going to keep doing whatever we want.

How do you see it?

Yeah.

I'm glad you're asking that question because when people ask me,

so how are you feeling?

Have you processed?

What does it mean? What happened to you? It happened to be me, but the context is so much bigger, right? That's why, you know, coming out of the situation, as you put it, I was quick to say, if this is how they're willing to treat a United States senator who has a question,

then you can imagine not just what they're willing or capable of doing, but what is happening

to people across the country when the cameras aren't there.

It happens to be Los Angeles right now, happens to be the conversation, the debate about

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