7/11/25: Elon is scaring Trump, top exec nukes Trump to Lara's face
The David Pakman Show
David Pakman
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🗓️ 11 July 2025
⏱️ 70 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the show, everybody. |
| 0:09.0 | A lot of the recent conflicts between egomaniacal billionaires are now coming to a head. |
| 0:16.5 | And if I had to handicap it right now, I think Elon Musk is out on top of Donald Trump here. |
| 0:22.4 | Let me tell you what's going on. |
| 0:24.2 | There's a really interesting piece in the bulwark by interestingly written by Bill Crystal |
| 0:29.1 | called The Enemy of My Enemy is My Elon. |
| 0:34.5 | Not a phrase I would typically say on this show, interesting piece from Bill Crystal, but the |
| 0:40.0 | piece points out that Donald Trump's sort of shift recently from insulting Elon to saying he's |
| 0:46.8 | dangerous really seems like a signal that Trump is terrified. |
| 0:51.1 | And there are two reasons. |
| 0:53.3 | Number one, Elon Musk's third party, |
| 0:55.8 | the America party. And number two, what Elon Musk knows about Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, |
| 1:01.9 | even though that I don't think is what you think. So let me lay it out. The America party. |
| 1:06.8 | If Elon Musk is serious about this third party, the America party, it's a big if he might not really be serious about it. |
| 1:13.0 | It could do real damage to Donald Trump's coalition in November of 2026, which is now just 16 months away. |
| 1:19.2 | The Epstein stuff is less about, oh, Elon knows the truth about Trump and Epstein's debauchery. |
| 1:27.4 | It's more about if Elon can convince |
| 1:30.8 | MAGA people that Trump is now covering up the Epstein stuff. They spent years saying Trump's going |
| 1:38.6 | to uncover it. Trump's going to disclose it. Trump's going to expose it. And if Elon can convince MAGA people, Trump's part of the cover up now. |
| 1:48.2 | He could potentially get MAGA people to abandon Donald Trump. |
| 1:52.6 | And that's how his third party might be useful, which is, hey, I have something for you to |
| 1:57.7 | abandon Trump to. |
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