Hello everyone and welcome to Saturn Returns with me Kaggy Dunlop. This is a

podcast that aims to bring clarity during transitional times where there can be

confusion and doubt.

Today I am joined by Amy Mcnee.

I discovered Amy on Instagram

through my wonderful friend Africa Brook and it kind of arrived or

Amy's work arrived at a time in my life where to kind of add a bit more of a personal take I have been doing a creative project

that I haven't been really speaking about it's a music project which might surprise many of you and I've always really struggled

with putting myself out there in that aspect of sharing myself and that sort of having that creative expression.

And so when I discovered Amy's work I was instantly drawn to it.

Now Amy is a fiction author. She is also a creative coach and she puts a lot of stuff out on Instagram that really speaks to the creative and the creative process about how we struggle with things

and these internal dialogues that go on. So when I spoke to her it was a bit like

as often these episodes are a bit of a therapy session because it was exactly what I needed she called me out on a lot of stuff

so my point is the importance of the creative self I've realized is so

intertwined with our spiritual practice. I almost view these things as one of the same.

It's also my belief that we all have creativity and when

we're young when we're children we are very free and our expression of that. We don't fear

judgment or ridicule. We are we're just playful we're

creative we're using our imagination all the time and then it kind of gets beaten

out of us as we go into school and a more linear

traditional way of thinking and it's more academic and unless it actually becomes

what we do in our career. We abandon all these aspects of ourselves.

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