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Today, litigation on vaccine mandates continues.

Don Salloway, a partner in the labor and employment practice of Seyfarth Shaw,

joins Dr. Josh Sharfstein to talk about what's at the heart of these court cases and their

implications for other issues in the workplace, including diversity efforts and protections for LGBTQ individuals.

Let's listen.

Dawn Salloway, thank you so much for joining me on Public Health on Call to talk about litigation around vaccine mandates.

And I have to start with this question.

There's still litigation around vaccine mandates? And I have to start with this question. There's still litigation around vaccine

mandates? Oh, absolutely. There is, Josh. I spend most of my work time on vaccine related issues,

even today in 2023, and have since the summer of 2021.

And these are cases generally at the state level, would you say?

We have teams that are defending these cases all around the country in both federal court

and state court and also at the EEOC and equivalent state agencies.

Many of them are still in the trial courts, but some of them have reached the appellate courts as

well. I'm getting a sense of the scale from the way you're talking about it. Yes. Some of them are

very large cases, so class actions or actions with hundreds of plaintiffs,

and then some of them are single plaintiff cases. It's really kind of all over the map.

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