This is Joe Cole.

This is Ruben Lofs this cheek, and you want to listen into the London Blue Podcast.

Welcome back to yet another episode of One in this Blue Podcast.

I'm Nick, joined by Joula and Jesse as usual,

to look at a fairly routine victory for Chelsea over Birmingham City.

We're also joined by a special guest, and I will let Jesse do the intros.

Yeah, we're joined by Craig Hadley today,

women's football writer and acting chair of the Birmingham City Women's Sporters Group.

But as well as that, he's also a Chelsea men's fan.

So Craig, how do you end up supporting Chelsea in men's football

but then picking Birmingham in the women's go?

Well, I didn't really, I'd not originally from London, so that's part of it.

And then, in about 97, I was inspired by Jim Franco-Zola to start supporting Chelsea,

which is a good reason there's any really.

So I've supported Chelsea since then, and then I wasn't really that much of a noticeable fan

of women's football before then, but then when I went to university in about 2010,

I started doing some sports coverage for their paper on their women's football.

And then, I got into it from there, and then I looked for my closest team

at that point in Birmingham City, and then when I got to see a similar

to the Jim Franco-Zola thing, really.

With Karen Carney, I started really liked what I saw from here,

so I started supporting Birmingham City, and then the rest of the history

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