Well done. You've sorted through the embarrassment of riches that is the modern podcast landscape

and found me Rob Briden on my podcast. In this series of Briden and I talk to among

others Harry Hill, Ben Elton, Charlotte Church, Steve Cougan and Dame Harriet Walter.

And that's just a few. We tend to chat for about 45 minutes to an hour never longer.

It's terrific conversation, reminiscent where appropriate and exchange of anecdotes.

So do join me Rob Briden wherever you get your podcasts.

New episodes of Briden and are available early and ad free on Amazon Music or by subscribing

to Wondery Plus in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery app.

The whole panic is a new comedy podcast from Wondery that leans into our most absurd anxieties

and defuses them with humor and actual advice. Listen to Don't Panic on the Wondery app

or wherever you get your podcasts.

The goal is to be happier. More than 10%, maybe even 12.

More than 100% happy.

See today, I love the man I am and I am a freaking mess.

From ABC, this is the 10% happier podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

So I guess this week is a dude known sometimes as the CEO whisperer. He's a one on one coach

for people who run some of the most dynamic and interesting startup companies and even larger

in the country. And he's of course got his own business background that is really interesting

and also kind of tumultuous.

Jerry Kallona is in business circles a legend and he also has a longstanding meditation practice

which infuses in many significant ways his work with these CEOs.

So ladies and gentlemen, here's Jerry Kallona.

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