You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

So it's all acting like safe haven.

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their

currency, Bitcoin wins.

In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

Gary Brod, it's been too long, sir.

Welcome back to the show.

Thanks for having me back, Marty.

Well, we were just discussing before we had recorded.

The last time you were on it, I believe I remember it was in the midst of or right before the tariff tantrum.

And regardless of whether it was right before or right during, I think your call was

pretty pressure is that this is going to take time to see the sort of ramifications of

a shift in trade policy toward tariffs to play out.

And so we've had about eight or not eight, my like six, seven months now of the

implementation of the tariffs.

What is your, what are your thoughts on how this has played out so far as it pertains to terror specifically

so you know back when you know we had Independence Day roughly six months ago seven months

ago something like that um you know what i said at the time was this is not going to be the

disaster people think it is you had all these fiat

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