676: Vance Allred - Son of AUB Polygamist Prophet Rulon Allred Pt. 2

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 29 November 2016

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

Rulon Clark Allred (March 29, 1906 – May 10, 1977) was a homeopath and chiropractor in Salt Lake City and the founder/leader of what is now the Apostolic United Brethren, a breakaway sect of polygamous Mormon fundamentalists in Utah, Colorado, Montana, and Arizona, United States. He was murdered on the orders of Ervil LeBaron, the head of a rival polygamous sect (Wikipedia).

Vance Allred is Rulon's Allred's son, and at one point was a chief apologist for Mormon fundamentalist polygamy, and was being groomed to succeed his father as prophet of the AUB. In this three part series, Vance Allred discusses:

Part 1: His father's rise to power, via the founding of the Apostolic United Brethren, and Vance's early years as the son of a polygamist prophet.
Part 2: The events leading up to Rulon Allred's assassination, and Vance's candid critique of his father's work, and
Part 3: The sexual abuse in the AUB that led Vance to leave the AUB, and the events that led Vance to join the LDS church (requiring an interview with two LDS apostles). Finally, Vance discusses the factors that led to him becoming inactive LDS.

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0:56.6	This is a big machine by the size of a card, not really, but when I was a little kid's
1:00.5	eyes, the thing would make all these noise and this little thing would come out and
1:04.0	would still wet and it was the birchative, it would get a black background, white print
1:07.7	on it.
1:08.7	My dad went to prison in 1944 and so we quote and quote paid the price for the children
1:12.6	born before 1944.
1:13.6	But then they came to rest of 1955 and we had to go into hiding.
1:18.2	So none of the children before in 1944 and 1955 had a birchative except for my mother's
1:24.0	three sons.
1:26.3	My mother had a first son in 1944 and my brother ex, he's number 24 out of 48.
1:31.5	So thinking about all my dad's dad's because the first half were born before her son.
1:37.6	It came time to get us in school and you had to have a birchative to get into school.
1:41.5	Well 11 of the kids did not have birchative.
1:43.7	It's 11 of them.
1:45.4	So my mother managed on her lunch hours.
1:49.8	My mother managed on her lunch hour to make forgeries, to make false copies.
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