This is the Bigger Pocket Spotcast Show 670.

This is a wonderful time to get in.

You might even find that the metrics you're searching for are the same because if interest rates

are up, the prices are down, the cash flow might be the same as if prices were high and interest rates

low. The difference is you're getting the asset for less. So over time, if you're able to

refy at some point, whenever that day comes, when it makes sense to refy, your cash flow increases

even more. Let's go on everyone. I am David Green, your host of the Bigger Pocket St.

Podcast. Here's the day with a special episode for you. We're doing bigger news with my co-host

Dave Meyer. Dave, what's going on? Not much, man. It's great to be back. You still have me laughing

from before the recording. I'm still trying to get my act together. We have a lot of fun here,

and that will translate into the show. But in addition to fun, you're going to get a lot of

amazing information. So in the Bigger News episodes, we have created these to bring you what's

going on in the current state of the market. What's happening with interest rates? What's going on

with the Fed? What's happening with the country as a whole? Which markets are exploding? Which ones

are shrinking? The information you need to make the best decisions possible for yourself

all backed by data, which is why we've got Dave Meyer here because he's the data guy.

In today's show, we have a special guest. We have Kathy Fettke of Real Wealth Network

returning. She was our first ever guest on the Bigger News podcast. And she comes in to talk about

a term that I think is fantastic that my co-host Dave Meyer here came up with defensive investing.

So in our show, we're going to talk about how to invest in a defensive way, which I recommend

doing when the market starts to turn like it is now. And just a quick word from today's show sponsors.

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