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This American Life

668: The Long Fuse

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This American Life

Society & Culture, News, Politics, Arts

4.688.8K Ratings

🗓️ 6 April 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

People tossing words out into the world impulsively to ignite and burn over decades.

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  • Prologue: Host Ira Glass plays a strange voicemail left by a 96-year-old surgeon about a letter that was written five decades ago. (6 minutes)
  • Act One: Producer Lilly Sullivan reports out that voicemail. (13 minutes)
  • Act Two: On his deathbed, a wealthy man in Toronto decides to make some trouble. Hundreds of babies are involved. Stephanie Foo tells the story. (25 minutes)
  • Act Three: Cyclist Mike Friedman said something to cyclist Ian Dille in the middle of a race that ate at both of them for years. Jared Marcelle tells the story. (12 minutes)

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0:00.0

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0:04.7

committed to the fight for human rights, supporting advocates and grassroots organizations worldwide,

0:10.7

working towards democracy, equity, and justice at a.jWS.org.

0:17.5

A few years ago, Jennifer Gomez wash was watching this PBS cooking show.

0:21.8

And this chef, David Chang, started talking about MSG.

0:24.8

Monosodium glutees of meat.

0:26.8

And of course, lots of people believe MSG is bad for you.

0:29.6

Gives your headaches, food hangover.

0:31.6

That idea has been around for decades.

0:33.1

I grew up hearing this.

0:34.0

Maybe you did too.

0:35.5

But Jennifer knows this is a myth.

0:41.1

In fact, the very next segment on the show is science and food writer Harold McGee saying just that.

0:42.0

And he just had this sort of throwaway line that, yeah, this myth of MSG being harmful

0:47.5

can be traced back to one letter in the New England Journal of Medicine.

0:51.4

A letter to the editor in the New England Journal of Medicine.

0:56.0

And I was just sort of sitting there and going, huh, one letter.

0:59.0

It was like, oh, it's an origin story.

1:02.0

At the time, Jennifer was a PhD student, very interested in the way people talk about race and Asian Americans.

1:08.0

So to hear that there was once this letter,

1:10.0

that led Americans to freak out about the dangers

1:12.0

of an ingredient commonly used in Chinese food, an ingredient that was later proven totally

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