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The Hello and welcome to the show. This is the cult of conspiracy. And my name's Jonathan.

I'm Jacob. And today we got Caesar from Beyond the Frequency podcast. What did do, my dude?

Hey, thanks a lot for having me on the show.

How are you guys doing?

Awesome, brother.

I was going to ask you, Caesar Pagan?

Now, is that your actual last name or is that like a moniker that you've given yourself?

It's pretty awesome.

Either way, but with a weird last name myself, I got to ask. Yeah, no, that's a fair question. So it's actually pronounced Pagan.

Okay. Yeah. So it's, it's Puerto, it's Puerto Rican. So yes, when I was growing up,

I kept on being asked, are you a heathen? I had no idea what a heathen was. And I asked my dad and we went

down that rabbit hole and he was just like, no, just make sure you, you know, have people

pronounce your name as Pagan. They can say Caesar or they can say Cesar, which is my name is

Cesar Pagan. Yeah. But Cesar's, you know, cool, you know, Julius Caesar and all the other

greats and stuff. So, yeah, Caesar Pagin. Yeah, that's my name. What an awesome name, though.

I honestly thought that it was, like, kind of just a pen name or something like that, because I was

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