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653: Crime Scene

This American Life

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4.688.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2024

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Every crime scene hides a story. In this week's show, we hear about crime scenes and the stories they tell.

  • Medical Examiner D.J. Drakovic, in Pontiac Michigan, explains how every crime scene is like a novel. (5 minutes)
  • Act One: Reporter Nancy Updike spends two days with Neal Smither, who cleans up crime scenes for a living, and comes away wanting to open his Los Angeles franchise, despite the gore — or maybe because of it. (12 minutes)
  • Act Two: Actor Matt Malloy reads a short story by Aimee Bender, from her book “The Girl in the Flammable Skirt," about what can be and cannot be recovered from a crime scene, or from anywhere. (12 minutes)
  • Act Three: Sometimes criminals return to the scene of their misdeeds — to try to make things right, to try to undo the past. Katie Davis reports on her neighbor Bobby, who returned to the scene where he robbed people and conned people. This time, he came to coach little league. (22 minutes)

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0:00.0

I'm in the office of Dr. L. J. J.

0:07.5

Dracovich, who examines dead bodies for the police in Pontiac, Michigan,

0:11.9

and he's running through this carousel of slides, all of the murder victims.

0:15.0

They're close-ups of body parts.

0:17.0

To say, as you just like flip through these things, this is the grisliest slide show I've ever seen.

0:21.0

It's just like every slide is some...

0:23.6

There's another story, yes. Every crime scene is a story of its own, is a novel, and it opens up in every direction.

0:37.0

To illustrate, he tells me this story.

0:43.0

Back when he worked in the Wayne County Coroner's Office in Detroit, there was a young woman.

0:47.0

The story, by the way, probably is not suitable for younger children.

0:51.0

Okay, anyway, there's this young woman, she apparently killed herself by taking

0:55.6

her boyfriend's gun, putting it on her mouth, and firing. It was ruled with suicide. That's

1:01.1

what the police thought. That's what the other medical examiners thought.

1:04.4

But Dr. Dracovich wondered, this woman didn't have a history of depression, there's no note.

1:10.6

My colleagues tease me as being paranoid and seeing things where they were not.

1:17.0

So he does the examination, including the inside of the woman's mouth.

1:21.0

In this particular case, the tongue showed two holes. Two holes, he says.

1:29.0

It is very strange in this kind of case. Because usually he told me this gets a little explicit again.

1:35.0

Usually he says when people shoot themselves in the mouth to kill themselves,

1:40.0

they kind of point the gun upward toward the brain. The tongue doesn't get involved at all, doesn't

1:45.4

get injured. The only way this could have happened he realized is if the tongue was all bunched

1:50.9

up, kind of pushing against the tip of the gun, the muzzle of the gun when the gun went off.

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