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The Tim Ferriss Show

#649: Rick Rubin, Legendary Music Producer — The Creative Act, Overcoming Creative Blocks, Developing Your Perception and Sensitivities, Reinvention vs. Going Narrow, The Future and AI, and Much More

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🗓️ 11 January 2023

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Brought to you by Wealthfront high-yield savings account, Peloton Row premium rower for an efficient workout, and You Need A Budget cult-favorite money management app.

Rick Rubin (@RickRubin) is a nine-time GRAMMY-winning producer, one of Time magazine’s 100 most influential people in the world, and the most successful producer in any genre, according to Rolling Stone. He has collaborated with artists from Tom Petty to Adele, Johnny Cash to the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Beastie Boys to Slayer, Kanye West to the Strokes, and System of a Down to Jay-Z. You can find my 2015 interview with Rick at tim.blog/RickRubin.

His new book is THE CREATIVE ACT: A Way of Being

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This episode is also brought to you by Peloton Row! Peloton Row brings personalized form features to rowing to help you learn and master your stroke. Form features like Form Assist indicate how to improve your stroke in class in real time, as well as a detailed post-class breakdown so you can hit the Row harder next time. And with features that allow you to personalize your target metrics, you become an expert at the level and pace that feels good for you. You get all your cardio and strength in one shot, while protecting your joints and ligaments in a high-intensity, low-impact way. Fun fact: you work 86% of your muscles in only 15 minutes.

Right now is the perfect time to get rowing with Peloton Row. Peloton Row offers a variety of classes for all levels plus game-changing features that help you get rowing or advance the rowing you can already do. Explore Peloton Row at OnePeloton.com/Row.

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0:00.0

This episode is brought to you by Peloton and their brand new Peloton row.

0:04.3

Peloton row brings personalized form features and guidance to rowing to help you learn and master

0:09.6

your stroke. This was always a weak point for me, meaning before I used Peloton row and I got to

0:14.6

test a unit a few weeks ago here in Austin, which blew me away. My form was just a question mark

0:20.8

and I also tended to flame out after five or ten minutes on a row. I just really didn't know what

0:25.4

I was doing. And with Peloton row, that all changed. The instructor's first and foremost

0:29.9

highly trained fitness pros, many different types who motivate you through every rowing workout.

0:35.9

I really enjoyed my training sessions with Alex Karewowski. Specifically, he's a current high-level

0:42.8

international competitor in rowing. So you know his technique has been refined. Peloton offers a

0:48.9

huge variety of workouts like high intensity interval training, hit rows and endurance rows and more.

0:55.3

With the feedback that I was able to get, so you effectively see a profile of yourself and based

1:00.5

on sensors at different points in the machine, you will see feedback. I was able to then do a much

1:06.2

more sustained workout to actually tax different metabolic systems. And I felt spectacular afterwards.

1:14.0

Form features like form assist indicate how to improve your stroke in class in real time. And you

1:18.8

also get a detailed post class breakdown. So you can hit the row harder but more technically next time.

1:24.9

In my opinion, you can turn off the form assist after about three minutes or so. You'll probably get

1:31.0

most of what you're going to get in each of those sessions and you don't want to become too

1:34.5

overly concerned with that so that it detracts from your experience. With all these features,

1:39.2

you can personalize your target metrics. You become the expert at the level and pace that feels

1:43.9

good for you. You get all the cardio and strength in one shot while protecting your joints and ligaments

1:48.2

in a high intensity but low impact method of exercise. And this blew my mind also. My ankles sometimes

1:54.8

hurt when I've tried rowing in the past and by getting the proper instruction, I felt no pain in

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