You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

So it's all acting like safe haven.

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency,

Bitcoin wins.

In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

Robert, thank you for joining me, sir.

Yeah, good to be here.

We got introduced by a mutual friend, Roberto, formerly known as, and still known as,

popularly as Peruvian Bull.

He reached out in Trotovacvite.

Email said, had to talk to you. we've been going back and forth a little bit

through email this week and just really excited to touch on some of the topics that you're

focused on and passionate about globalization silent depression tripping dilemma and as we were

discussing right before we hit record, let's start with globalization.

Because obviously, I think this year, particularly we're seeing political reactions to globalization

in the form of tariffs and economic policy here in the United States making big shifts.

And so let's let's start with globalization. How did it get to this

point? And where do you see it going in the future? Yeah. So really started in the 80s, at least kind of

from what I can gather from bounce of trade, current account data, started in the 80s, and basically, you know,

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