Hey there, it's Stephen Dubner.

Before we get started on today's episode, I would love your help on a future episode we're

producing, especially if you happen to be a physician.

We are looking into the doctor shortage in the U.S.

So if you happen to be a doctor, we want to hear from you.

I'd like to know how your workload has changed over time, maybe how your workplace has

changed, or if you have anything else on the topic to say that you think we might find

interesting.

Just send a voice memo to radio at Freakonomics.com subject line, doctor shortage.

Thanks in advance.

Also, we will be doing a live taping of Freakonomics Radio as part of

SiriusXM Podcasts Month on Wednesday, October 8th in New York City. There's room for a few

Freakonomics radio fans to come along. So if you would like to be one of them, send an email to

radio at Freakonomics.com's subject line live taping. Thanks for that.

And now on to today's episode.

If you are an American, how do you think about the relationship between the U.S. and China?

You may see China as a political and economic bully and a thief of American intellectual property.

You may see China as a hardcore surveillance state internally and externally.

Maybe a propaganda state, too.

But you probably don't think about the relationship between China and the U.S.

the way that Dan Wong thinks about it.

I think that no two peoples are more alike.

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