#641: Why Bitcoin Collateral Beats Private Credit Markets with Phil Lojacono

TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

Marty Bent

Technology

4.8 • 764 Ratings

🗓️ 19 July 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Marty sits down with Phil from Berglinde to discuss Bitcoin-backed lending markets, the challenges of bringing institutional capital into the Bitcoin economy, European regulatory landscapes, and how Bitcoin could serve as a catalyst for political and economic sovereignty.

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0:00.0	You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.
0:10.0	If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.
0:16.0	So it's all acting like safe haven.
0:18.0	I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their
0:23.5	currency, Bitcoin wins.
0:25.3	In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.
0:29.2	I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.
0:31.8	If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.
0:36.2	Bill, it's all over.
0:37.3	The price of Bitcoin has crashed to $117,943. You probably should be. Bill, it's all over.
0:41.4	The price of Bitcoin has crashed to $117,943.
0:44.0	Yeah, amazing, right?
0:46.9	Again, it's all over.
0:52.6	So I literally just read the tweet from like a TreadFi guy who actually came up with that because Bitcoin crashed by another four or whatever percent.
0:56.6	And he claimed that Bitcoin still doesn't keep his promises.
1:02.5	Yeah, it's ridiculous.
1:04.0	But okay.
1:04.7	It's down from the high price of $123,000.
1:09.1	But it's been a week.
1:10.5	It's been a fun week.
1:12.2	And I think the timing of this interview is very timely.
1:17.0	Number one, it's Swiss week here on TFTC, unintentionally.
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