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641. What Does It Cost to Lead a Creative Life?

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🗓️ 18 July 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

For years, the playwright David Adjmi was considered “polarizing and difficult.” But creating "Stereophonic" seems to have healed him. Stephen Dubner gets the story — and sorts out what Adjmi has in common with Richard Wagner.

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It wasn't necessarily a Fed accompli that I would have this kind of hit or anything like that.

0:08.2

I was taken to task by the critics, and I was considered really polarizing and difficult.

0:13.7

Let's back up for a second. Please say your name and what you do.

0:17.0

David Adjmi is my name, and playwright is my game.

0:22.4

Adjmi has been a playwright for a few decades now.

0:25.0

His work was typically staged in regional or repertory or experimental theaters, but never

0:31.0

under the much brighter lights of Broadway or the West End.

0:35.2

That changed last year with a play he wrote called Stereophonic.

0:39.3

Stereophonic is a play about a dysfunctional family and art making and about the struggle to become an artist.

0:45.3

That's another way of saying that Stereophonic is a play about the mind of David Adjmi.

0:51.3

I always work off of tropes in the culture,

0:54.8

but then it's always really a way for me to talk about me.

0:57.9

The plot of Stereophonic is so slender that it barely sounds like a plot.

1:02.9

A five-piece band is struggling to record their second album.

1:07.3

The band very much resembles Fleetwood Mac, at least superficially.

1:12.1

There are two sound engineers also, and the entire play takes place in California recording studios in the late 1970s.

1:18.7

That's it. But that slender plot supports an entire universe of emotion. It's some of the most

1:24.6

psychologically astute writing you'll ever hear on a stage.

1:28.9

And then there's the music. Stereophonic is not a musical, not even close, but the music says

1:34.1

a lot of things the characters aren't able to. And the music was written by Will Butler,

1:39.4

a longtime member of the band Arcade Fire. Last year, as we were trying to make a series about the strange economics of the live

1:47.9

theater industry, Stereophonic had just moved to Broadway from a well-received off-Broadway

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