This isn't your average business podcast and he's not your average host.

This is the James Altiger Show.

Today on the James Altiger Show.

Once again my good friend Ryan Holiday on the podcast.

I mean Ryan and I have worked together on so many different projects over the past eight

years.

Yeah we've known each other for about eight years.

We worked, he helped me with the marketing for Choose Your Cell.

He was actually originally the first person who I enlisted to be the producer for this

podcast.

But he's been just burdened up a storm on the bestseller list, writing bestseller after

bestseller and his latest book, which I think now actually, and I always say this, but

I think his latest book is his best book, Lives of the Stoics.

And it's basically, he explains the various philosophies of the most famous Stoic philosophers

and not only is this a great way to understand such an important philosophy, but it's almost

like a history book about ancient Rome and he's such a good storyteller.

I felt like I was getting this real great and easy to understand view of the history of

ancient Rome.

But even more importantly than that is that Stoicism is a great philosophy for today's

day and age.

It's not overly religious like there's no man with a beard, there's no magic in it.

And you could be religious but also a Stoic, but it's more philosophy of how to basically

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