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Lingthusiasm - A podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics

63: Where to get your English etymologies

Lingthusiasm - A podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics

Gretchen McCulloch and Lauren Gawne

Science

4.8743 Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2021

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

When you look at a series of words that sorta sound like each other, such as pesto, paste, and pasta, it’s easy to start wondering if they might have originated with a common root word. Etymologists take these hunches and painstakingly track them down through the historical record to find out which ones are true and which ones aren’t -- in this case, that paste and pasta have a common ancestor, but pesto comes from somewhere else. In this episode, your hosts Gretchen McCulloch and Lauren Gawne get enthusiastic about English etymology! We talk about where the etymological parts of dictionaries come from, the gaps in our knowledge based on the biases of historical sources, how you can become the Etymology Friend (with help from Etymonline), and which kinds of etymologies should immediately make you put your debunking hat on (spoiler: anything containing an acronym or formatted like an image meme. Just saying.). Now you too can have etymology x-ray vision! (Aka, where to quickly look up etymologies on your phone!). Read the transcript here. Announcements: Thanks for celebrating our 5 year anniversary with us! We loved seeing you share all your favourite Lingthusiasm episodes and moments. We’re looking forward to another year of sharing linguistic joy with you. This month’s bonus episode is about linguistics olympiads! These involve a series of fun linguistic puzzles, sort of like sudoku for linguistics. Since linguistics isn't commonly taught in high schools, the puzzles can't assume any prior linguistics knowledge, so they're either logic puzzles as applied to language or they teach you basic linguistics concepts in the preamble to the question, making them great for ling fans as well. Alas, we were not in high school recently enough to participate in any olympiads ourselves, so we also talk about how people can get involved if you're not a high school student, from helping to host a session at a local high school or university to just doing puzzles for fun and interest (they're available for free with answer keys on the olympiad websites, plus there was a recent book that came out compiling some of them). Plus: how Lauren has made a few olympiad puzzles herself! Get access to this and over 50 more bonus Lingthusiasm episodes (and help keep the show ad-free) by supporting Lingthusiasm on Patreon. www.patreon.com/lingthusiasm For links to everything in this episode visit the shownotes page: https://lingthusiasm.com/post/670767938518827008/episode-63-where-to-get-your-english-etymologies

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Lenthusiasm, a podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics. I'm Lauren

0:21.5

Gorn. And I'm Gretchen McCulloch. And today, we're getting enthusiastic about etymology and why people find it so

0:27.5

compelling. But first, thank you to everybody who recommended the show as part of our fifth

0:32.3

anniversary celebrations. It really does make a difference, and we appreciate all of you so much.

0:37.4

This month's bonus episode is all about linguistics olympiads for high schoolers and the fun of solving linguistics puzzles for people of all ages.

0:44.6

You can listen to this bonus episode and 57 more by going to patreon.com slash linguasiasm.

0:50.1

And if you're a high school student or you know someone who is, you can check out the website of the International Linguistics Olympiad to find an Olympiad happening every year in to know if you think these words are related.

1:16.9

Okay.

1:17.7

The first set of words is pasta, paste, pesto.

1:22.6

Are any of these words related?

1:24.6

If so, which ones?

1:26.6

I'm very observant, so I notice they all start with

1:29.0

a P, and they have a kind of similar shape to them. I like pasta and Pesto in combination.

1:36.4

I don't think that has anything to do with where these words come from. It's very valuable of you

1:42.2

not to let your personal aesthetic judgments interfere with your search for

1:45.3

etymological truth, yes?

1:47.3

Paste and pesto feel like they should be related because they're both kind of goopy things

1:55.4

that you mash stuff up in.

1:58.1

So I'm going to say paste and pesto are related.

2:04.0

And then pasta has me completely stumped in this one because I feel like I could make up some reason that there's a relationship

2:10.7

to do with how pasta is like a goopy dough that you cook. but I feel like I'm definitely just inventing connections

2:21.4

between these words at this point.

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