And the I'm going to do. Hello theology and the raw fans and listeners. I have a special episode for you today.

This is actually a podcast interview that I did for another podcast called the Regeneration Podcast, which is a rather new

podcast.

I believe this is only going to be the fifth or six episode of their podcast.

The Regeneration Podcast is hosted by my friends Jay Kim and Isaac Serrano, who are both

pastors out in California, in the

Central California coast, Santa Cruz area,

Southern Bay Area,

and these two guys, Jay and Isaac

are just two amazing people.

They're thoughtful, they're engaging, they're relevant, they're very

pastoral. Their podcast is about, it's about candid conversations about theology, church, mission,

and lots of stuff that people are thinking about.

I love the vibe of this podcast.

They've had other guests on such as Dan Kimball, Tim Mackie of the Bible Project, my friend

Josh Butler, Gary Bresheirs of Western Seminary, and I believe I think I'm, well I think I'm the fifth person to be on the podcast.

So again, it's a new podcast, but it's a really fantastic one. I would encourage you to go listen to it.

But I asked Jay and Isaac, I'm like, man, that was such a fun conversation. Could I get the MP3 of that interview?

And even though they were interviewing me, can release it on Theology and I often have guests on my show but rarely do I interview myself on Theology and Rob because that would be really weird and you would probably be very concerned about my mental state if I did that. So I went ahead

and let Jay and Isaac interview me and would love to give you our conversation

on theology and raw. We talked a lot about the doctrine of

hell. I talked about my journey, talked about some things I'm currently thinking

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