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🗓️ 28 October 2025
⏱️ 56 minutes
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When we first step onto the spiritual path, it's easy to imagine it as pure light — all love, peace, and alignment.
But the truth is, awakening often looks a lot more human.
I was invited to be part of the Mastering Spirituality Summit, where I sat down with Jason Marc Campbell for a heartfelt conversation about the real spiritual journey — the one that includes confusion, expansion, surrender, and the beauty of coming home to yourself again and again.
In this episode, I share what my own path has taught me about awakening — how every challenge is an initiation, how our dharma unfolds in layers, and how to keep showing up even when things feel unclear.
We explore:
The surprising stages of the spiritual journey we all move through
Why confusion and resistance are signs of growth, not failure
What it truly means to embody your dharma in everyday life
How to find devotion and clarity through the unknown
This conversation is an invitation to breathe deeper into your becoming — to remember that the path itself is the practice. And that even the messy, in-between moments are part of your awakening.
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| 0:00.0 | If we lose connection to something greater than us, the problems of our life will eat us alive. |
| 0:04.5 | That's why when you go out and you take a walk, all of a sudden, that thing you were stressed |
| 0:07.1 | about doesn't hold on to you anymore. This is why spirituality is the most important thing you can |
| 0:11.0 | devote yourself to because life is freaking crazy. There are wars going on. There are crazy |
| 0:16.9 | political clauses being passed. The truth is the ultimate thing we can focus on this lifetime |
| 0:22.0 | is liberation. We are here for liberation. We are here to move past the noise and realize that |
| 0:27.4 | everything in this life is a reflection of us. Whatever you focus on, the projector screen of |
| 0:33.7 | your life will say, oh, you want to focus on this? Let me bring it more to you. The only way that we can end anything is to create the opposite. So the only way we can end war |
| 0:43.1 | is to create peace. The only way we can end poverty is to let go. I'm the one I've been waiting for. |
| 0:54.7 | Close flow soon to let go. |
| 0:57.0 | Trust flow, surrender, let go. |
| 0:59.3 | Trust flow, soon to let go. |
| 1:01.6 | I'm the one I've been waiting for. |
| 1:05.9 | Welcome back, everyone, to our mastering spirituality summit. |
| 1:08.7 | I'm so excited that we get to bring you in studio in a |
| 1:11.1 | wonderful conversation that we're going to have about spirituality, modern definitions of it, |
| 1:15.2 | and having fun while you're on the path of mastering spirituality. Sahara Rose is joining me. |
| 1:20.1 | If you're not familiar with her, highest self podcast, the number one spirituality podcast with over |
| 1:23.9 | 35 million downloads has been hosted by her, has all of the greatest minds and |
| 1:28.7 | spirituality where she's been able to actually tap into their brain and bring some modern |
| 1:32.8 | wisdom to the masses. She's also written several books, bestsellers, including Discover Your |
| 1:38.2 | Dharma Forward by Deepak Chopra and is now running the Dharma Coaching Institute, helping others discover their passion, |
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