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Hi everyone, I hope you're all doing so well and welcome back to the Criminal Maker podcast.

Each episode we dive into the minds of some of the worst criminals in history and today

we are going to be talking about the heartbreaking case of Kelly and Bates. So the case of Kelly

and Bates is known to be one of the most sadistic murders in the UK. And I need to warn you,

it is another heavy one. There are parts of this case that are not easy to listen to whatsoever.

And I was very hesitant to cover this case in the first place because it's just that bad.

The things that Kelly and Bates had to suffer through are some of the worst forms of torture

imaginable. And this case took place in Manchester back in the 90s and Kelly and Bates at the

time was just so young. She was only 17 years old. And the evil perpetrator in today's case was

a man named James Patterson Smith, who is possibly one of the worst human beings I have ever

come across. Like seriously, the things that this man got away with make your skin crawl and your

blood boil. And there are going to be some graphic descriptions later on in the case. So just be

prepared for that. The case of Kelly and Bates, it's not easy to listen to. However, it was an

important case for me to bring to you because it's very undercover, but also Kelly was failed

in so many ways. And today's case is one of the saddest and most tragic cases I've ever come

across. So let's get into it. So James Patterson Smith, his exact birthday, is not known. We do

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