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People I (Mostly) Admire

62. How Does Historian Brad Gregory Make a Boring Topic So Mind-Blowing?

People I (Mostly) Admire

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Society & Culture

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2022

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

A leading expert on the Reformation era, Brad, a University of Notre Dame professor, tells Steve about how the “blood gets sucked out of history,” and why historians and economists don’t quite see eye to eye.

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My guest today, Brad Gregory, is a professor of history at Notre Dame University.

0:10.0

He's a leading scholar of the Reformation, Martin Luther, the 95 Leases nailed to the

0:14.8

church door and all that.

0:16.6

Now here's the thing.

0:17.9

I imagine that if you're my typical listener, you're saying to yourself, I have no interest

0:22.8

in Martin Luther.

0:23.8

Well, to be honest, I would have said the exact same thing until I met Brad Gregory.

0:29.9

When history is reduced to lists of names and dates and important battles and treaties

0:34.7

and so forth, that's when the blood is sucked out of it, so to speak.

0:43.2

Welcome to People I mostly admire, with Steve Levitt.

0:49.0

Early in my career, I had the incredible opportunity to be part of something called the Harvard

0:53.5

Society of Fellows.

0:55.1

It's more or less the most amazing academic boom doggo you could ever find.

1:00.3

Three years with no obligations, except to talk about ideas with some of the most brilliant

1:05.0

academics on the planet.

1:06.4

That's where I met a young Brad Gregory and even in that rarefied company, he stood

1:11.8

out as a superstar.

1:16.6

Brad, it must be more than 20 years since we last spoke and one of the best things about

1:22.2

having this podcast is that it's given me a good reason to reflect on the question

1:25.8

of who the most interesting thinkers I've been lucky enough to encounter in my life and

1:30.8

then gives me an excuse to reach out and without a doubt, you are on that short list of amazing

1:36.5

thinkers.

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