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Jason Waller here true underdog podcast super excited for my underdogs out there for our guest today Mark Drager. He's going to help crush the fear and doubt that keeps you from building an extraordinary life. He's the president of phantom media limited to zone company.

He has a podcast we do hard things something to prove and he's helping people achieve what they want by not letting fear or negativity hold them back. How are you doing Mark? I'm awesome. Thank you. That was a very concise intro. I love it.

Not bad, right? I bring some energy. You were telling me you're in Toronto and the weather's better there than where I'm at Michigan. That was news to me. I honestly thought the more north you went the worse it was, but I guess that's not true. There's a that lake effect you like you mentioned between Buffalo Cleveland and Detroit.

Yeah, so you got you got Buffalo. You got Rochester. You got the finger lakes. You got all of that New York stuff. I have a friend right now in New York who says is the storm of the century. I'm outside in my shorts and t-shirt up here because it's Canada.

I'm purposely buying a house in Florida to live part time just because of this weather. My wife finally convinced me to get out of here. So listen, you help people to crush fear and doubt. I love that.

You know, it's a true underdog podcast overcoming adversity. I love haters because I love to when they're focusing on me. I'm focusing on me as well.

And I continue to grind and they get busy watching, but I want to share how you've been successful in business. And you have a beautiful family, which must feel a million miles away from your child.

They're constantly being put down by your stepfather. Take us back when you were younger. What was like growing up in a toxic environment?

Well, I mean, I think for most of us when you're kids and this is what scares the hell out of me as a father is the kids don't realize it's a toxic environment.

I mean, so my stepfather is was an alcoholic bipolar on the on the manic side of things. And so it's just a very angry person.

And so I grew up in a household where if I got home and he wasn't home, you could breathe easy. But you know, you see the truck coming down the lane way or something.

And suddenly the tension arises, everyone rises. You're not quite sure who's coming through the door. You're not sure what kind of day they had.

You're not sure if at dinner time you want to look up from your plate because you're busy eating as quick as possible.

So you can get out of the kitchen without without taking any heat. And I didn't realize that that was a bit of a pressure cooker childhood, but that's what I grew up with.

So obviously I would think that when we become parents, I grew up with some abuse in the house as well.

My dad was an alcoholic, but I used to get the threats from my mom. You know, if you guys keep acting up, your dad's going to come home and beat you.

And literally at 11, 12 o'clock at night when he got home, there were nights he woke me up and did that.

There were nights he woke me up and gave me pizza. It was bipolar. It was manic. It was crazy. So I somewhat can relate. I didn't have the alcoholic father.

But with that mindset, I tried to be a little different with my kids. Are you really are you much different with your children?

I mean, I think I think we are. So so it's interesting because of the environment we're in now. I'm actually I've spent the last almost a year now with my kids here at home.

I'm not in the office. I'm not I'm not getting home 20 minutes before they go to bed. I'm not up hours before they leave. I'm not I'm not out. And so I'm learning a lot more about who they are.

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