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And now, Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

What's up, everybody?

Welcome to Move the Sticks, presented by Zach Spies, DJ Buckie, back with you.

Buck, how you doing, man?

Man, I'm all good.

Can't complain.

Every day.

Another day, another day, another great guest here for us. Love it when we get a chance to visit with people that are plugged in and people that are good friends. And that's what we have now. Bruce Feldman, you know I'm from Fox Sports. He's their insider there for college football. He's a bestselling author written some fantastic books on the sport. This one, though, has been more fired up than anyone

else, any other book that he's written. It's called Flip the Script, Lessons Learned on the Road

to a Championship, all about the 2019 LSU Tigers and head coach Ed Orgeron. Bruce, thanks for joining

us. How you doing, ma'am? I'm doing great. Thanks for having me, guys. Well, there's so much I want to jump into, but first of all, I want to just start where the concept, I always love it when you come up with the concepts for these books.

When did the concept pop into your mind about tagging up with Ed Orgeron once again?

So I did this recruiting book called Meat Market, which is really about the process.

And Ojron was the central figure in it.

It was around his program at Old

Miss and the book did really well and so a lot of people that always asked me,

hey, are you ever going to do a sequel thinking it would be like on Texas recruiting or

Michigan recruiting or whatever. And I never thought that, you know, it's such an investment

in time. It's really hard to get the level of access to let somebody let you go behind the scenes for that long.

So I was just like, I don't know if it's going to happen.

And then I kept in touch with Ogeron over the years.

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