607 // Being Richard Speck w/ Tobias Jelinek
Crawlspace - True Crime & Mysteries
Crawlspace Media
4 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 24 December 2025
⏱️ 50 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | entering the world of imagination where there are no rules, |
| 0:03.1 | where there's total safety and freedom to go, however dark, |
| 0:07.9 | but also to what inspires you. |
| 0:10.5 | And images are what I work with largely. |
| 0:14.1 | So in terms of his biography and why he killed those nurses, we will never know. |
| 0:21.6 | For me, it was much more the exploring of the images of spec |
| 0:27.6 | and also archetypes, where there's an immense power, |
| 0:32.6 | and it's this acceptance of death, going to that place |
| 0:36.6 | where there isn't fear of death. |
| 0:38.3 | ...their In this new episode of CrawlSpace, we speak with actor Tobias Jelanick, who played mass murderer Richard Speck |
| 1:15.0 | in the new Netflix show Monster about Ed Gein. Lance, what did you think of this conversation? |
| 1:21.5 | Yeah, I thought it was a really insightful conversation. Tobias was mostly known for his role in hocus pocus. He was the bully in hocus |
| 1:30.0 | and he has this transformation both career-wise and physically in this production of Monster |
| 1:38.1 | the Ed Gein's story. And it's really cool to talk to him and have this conversation about |
| 1:43.0 | where his head was at when he's preparing for this role and when he's performing this role, especially because as anyone who's seen Monster knows that this is not entirely based in fact, there's a lot of fantasy here. |
| 1:55.2 | So he takes that mindset and he incorporates that into the performance and into his portrayal of Richard Speck. |
| 2:01.7 | So this isn't so much about Richard Speck's crimes. We do get into the horrendous murders |
| 2:06.3 | that took place in 1966, eight women nursing students brutally murdered in the same night. |
| 2:12.5 | But we do talk quite a bit about his process in creating this factual character in this fantasy land. |
| 2:19.3 | Yeah, and it seems like that those two things wouldn't go together when you're talking |
| 2:23.2 | about true crime and sort of entering, I guess, a world of fantasy where you're playing a real |
| 2:29.0 | person, but there's no evidence that Richard Speck ever actually idolized Ed Gein, which is kind of what happens at one point in the show. |
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