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Hello everyone and welcome back to part three of my interview with Daniel Miller and we've also been fortunate enough to have his wife, Anna Marie join us as well.

So welcome back Daniel Anna Marie.

Thank you.

Thanks for joining us in hour four of this episode.

We talked about your kind of lives before working for the church.

Episode two was sort of two hours of kind of in depth what it was like to work for the church and the beginnings of sort of your faith crisis at church headquarters, but we ended with you leaving the church's employee and doubling your compensation.

And now what we're going to do is we're going to try and answer some questions from the listeners and then we'll end with having you guys talk about kind of your journeys, you know, struggling with the church or out of the church.

Is that all right?

Yeah.

So one question just right off the top, you know, a lot of people have confirmed to me that that president Monson is has Alzheimer's and that he really isn't leading the church and that he he's really sort of not competent tells you know people who have been with him say that he'll tell stories two or three times with the same people, same stories within the same 15 minute period that he's just completely out of the church.

Now he can still read from a teleprompter, but that he's just not able to function as a normal person. Now as you are working in the church, did, did you have a sense for whether president Monson was leading, was there ever talk about his capacity to lead or was that just never discussed.

And I think there was a question in there where somebody asked about, you know, who's leading the day to day operations and whatnot.

The departments that throughout the church organization were very self sufficient.

You know, my manager, I think was called the publishing services partner who reported to the managing director, who would then go to whoever his meetings that he would meet with until you got up to your general authority that ultimately presided over your branch of what not.

And you know, they would they would give general guidance, general leadership, and then there would be a little more involvement and a little more motivation from the managing director and then down to my manager, you know, so there was some direction, but generally speaking, everybody just kind of did their own thing.

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