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The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk

601: Matt Mullenweg (CEO of Automattic) - Defining Your Creed, Hiring Talented Leaders, & Leading in a Remote World

The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk

Ryan Hawk

Careers, Management, Business

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk

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Text Hawk to 66866 to become part of The Learning Leader Community

This is Episode #601 with the CEO of Automattic, Matt Mullenweg

Notes:

  • What is your creed?
    • I will never stop learning. I won’t just work on things that are assigned to me. I know there’s no such thing as a status quo. I will build our business sustainably through passionate and loyal customers. I will never pass up an opportunity to help out a colleague, and I’ll remember the days before I knew everything. I am more motivated by impact than money, and I know that Open Source is one of the most powerful ideas of our generation. I will communicate as much as possible because it’s the oxygen of a distributed company. I am in a marathon, not a sprint, and no matter how far away the goal is, the only way to get there is by putting one foot in front of another every day. Given time, there is no problem that’s insurmountable.
      • "People need something to believe in." -- That's what draws talent to the company.
  • What do you look for when hiring a leader? "The four qualities that you can't train..."
    • Work ethic
    • Taste
    • Integrity
    • Curiosity
  • Coaching -- Expose your leaders to coaches.
    • Mirror
    • Ask questions
    • Reflect
  • Commonalities of leaders who sustain excellence:
    • Optimism in dark times
    • Player coaches -- They can do the work AND lead others
    • Hire well -- They spot talent, hire, train, develop, and retain them
  • Commencement speech -- Encourage others to think bigger. Raise their ambition. From Tyler Cowen -- The high-return activity of raising others’ aspirations - (PhD instead of Masters) At critical moments in time, you can raise the aspirations of other people significantly, simply by suggesting they do something better or more ambitious than what they might have in mind. It costs you relatively little to do this, but the benefit to them, and to the broader world, may be enormous.
  • Matt's Twitter Bio -- I can think. I can wait. I can fast– This comes from Hermann Hesse’s Siddhartha. Siddartha said “if you can think, wait, and fast, you can do just about anything.”
  • Don’t constrain your mentors by their availability, engage with their work! Jim Simons was a mentor for Matt. Be guided by beauty.
  • Will Durant - Health lies in action, and so it graces youth. To be busy is the secret of grace and half the secret of content. Let us ask the gods not for possessions, but for things to do; happiness is in making things rather than in consuming them.”
  • Matt's goals -- My goals in life are to democratize publishing, commerce, and messaging. I travel a lot. In 2023 I visited 63 cities, and 18 countries, and my average velocity was 41.9 miles per hour. I was born and raised in Houston, Texas. I write code, poetry, prose, and music, often in support of those three goals, but sometimes just to make the world a more beautiful place. I love taking photos and have posted over 30,000 to this site, hence my common username photomatt.

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No matter how far away the goal is, the only way they get there is by putting one foot in front of another every day.

0:06.0

Given time, there is no problem that's insurmount.

0:09.0

I am curious about mentors. I think everyone actually has a really interesting story and

0:18.6

I had something they can teach. Four qualities that you can't really train that's work ethic, taste, integrity, and curiosity.

0:27.5

One of the most sacred things we can do is hiring.

0:30.0

I think it's really important to stay involved with hiring

0:33.0

there's a lifetime of your company.

0:34.4

I personally did the final interview

0:36.4

for the first thousand hires.

0:37.8

Why should all companies have a creed?

0:39.6

I think people made something to believe in.

0:51.6

Welcome to The Learning Leader Show presented by Insight Global. I am your host, Ryan Hawk.

0:54.6

Thank you so much for being here.

0:55.9

Tech Hawk, 266866 to become part of Mindful Monday.

1:02.0

You, along with tens of thousands of other learning leaders from all over the world

1:06.0

will receive a carefully curated email for me each Monday morning to help you start your

1:11.4

week all right you'll also receive details about how our book

1:14.2

the score that matters will help you become a more effective leader.

1:18.8

Text Hawk to 66866 now on to tonight's featured meter.

1:25.5

Matt Mullenwig is the CEO of Automatic.

1:29.3

Automatic is a fully distributed company

1:31.9

with 1,900 employees.

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