Well, it's got to be a feeling of hopelessness and despair that you can't get out of this.

Well, you, again, accept that you're going to die doing this.

You know, see, you're able in your safe position right now in the safety of your life to think about tomorrow, right?

We do not have time to think about tomorrow.

I didn't have time to think about later on.

I need to figure out how I was going to survive this minute, this moment I'm living in.

So hope is the first thing that's taken from you when you are trafficked.

It is the last thing that you get.

If you are lucky enough to be rescued, it is the most difficult thing to find again.

Welcome to Game of Crimes.

So we had to take a quick break there.

So we're going to kind of get back into things and actually, I think it's, I don't want, let's not get into too much detail, but I think it was interesting.

The reason that we kind of took a break is you thought at one point your daughter was coming home and now we stopped and then we're going to start again.

And I think, you know, you mentioned something, this is going to be a tough conversation.

We'll have later a bit.

We'll be, what do you tell kids?

When do you tell them, you know, and how much do you tell them?

And that's one of the reasons we took a quick break here is you thought your daughter was coming home.

So let's just leave it at that for right now.

But I think it's important that people understand we took a break for that.

And I want everybody to realize is that these are very serious discussions we're having and we would never want to put those in the place or never have those, especially when there's a family member around who has never been provided some of the level of detail we're asking here.

So we're kind of, you know, we're kind of resetting and the other thing too is we will definitely not talk about this.

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