6: Seeing, Doubt, Contemplation and Action
Learning How to See with Brian McLaren
Center for Action and Contemplation
4.8 • 748 Ratings
🗓️ 9 November 2020
⏱️ 31 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | So I imagine if I could get in a time machine and go back to find the 23 or 25 or 26-year-old version of me and take myself out to breakfast. |
| 0:20.7 | Back then, I was a young preacher. I... and take myself out to breakfast. |
| 0:24.1 | Back then, I was a young preacher. |
| 0:27.1 | I had been a college English teacher. |
| 0:29.8 | I started teaching while I was in graduate school. |
| 0:34.9 | And while I was in graduate school, my wife and I started a little fellowship group, |
| 0:38.5 | and one thing led to another, that became a little church. |
| 0:44.9 | And eventually, when I was 26, I left teaching to just work with the church full-time. |
| 1:01.1 | But if I could go back, knowing what I know now, I imagine what I would tell that version of myself with long brown hair and a black beard, and now the wrinkly bald guy version of me with glasses would be sitting at the breakfast |
| 1:09.6 | table and say, listen, man, I got to tell you |
| 1:12.4 | something. Every week you prepare a sermon, you get up every Sunday and you try to inspire and |
| 1:19.0 | persuade and confront and encourage and challenge a wonderful community of people to become their |
| 1:25.3 | best possible selves, to grow into their full potential, to live by |
| 1:29.5 | Jesus' core teaching, meaning to love God and their neighbor and themselves. |
| 1:36.6 | Every week, you're getting up to do that, but you're working under a false assumption. |
| 1:42.7 | Your assumption is that you just have to prove something to them rationally. |
| 1:48.8 | You have to show them a Bible passage and logically interpret it. |
| 1:54.2 | And then when they see it, when they understand this interpretation, then they'll get it and they'll live in line with it and their |
| 2:04.6 | behavior will change. Everything you are doing is appealing to their brain, to their reasoning, |
| 2:13.3 | to their logic. And I don't know if the 25 or 26 or 28-year-old me |
| 2:22.1 | would have understood this. |
| 2:25.2 | I might have said, yeah, of course, that's what I'm doing. |
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