6 - Post-Roe America: The Next Generation
The Nocturnists
Emily Silverman
4.8 • 614 Ratings
🗓️ 26 October 2023
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
How has the Dobbs decision impacted medical education? In episode 6 of The Nocturnists: Post-Roe America we talk to trainees and educators about how Dobbs has impacted their lives in the classroom, and explore what we lose when we lose abortion training.
Host & Co-creator: Ali Block, MD
Co-creator: Emily Silverman, MD
Contributors: Anastasia Anazonwu, MD Candidate; Bria Peacock, MD; and other contributors who wish to remain anonymous
Find show notes, transcript, and more at thenocturnists.com/pra/6/next-generation. Follow @thenocturnists.
The Nocturnists: Post-Roe America series was made possible in part by the Josiah Macy Jr. Foundation.
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| 0:00.0 | Before we jump into today's episode, I wanted to tell you about a podcast that I love and that I think can help us understand this moment in abortion care. |
| 0:07.7 | Hosted by Dahlia Lithwick, Slate's Amicus podcast is all about the Supreme Court and the law, but you don't have to be a constitutional lawyer to listen to it. |
| 0:15.4 | And actually, last week, I had the pleasure of talking with Dahlia as a guest on the show. Here's Dahlia. |
| 0:20.5 | Thanks, Allie. On Amicus, we have this basic guiding principle that knowledge is power and that even or perhaps especially an opaque and lofty institution like the U.S. Supreme Court could do with more people understanding where its decisions |
| 0:38.0 | come from and what those decisions can mean for the rest of us, the American public. |
| 0:44.2 | Because as the six to three supermajority conservative court has shown, those decisions |
| 0:49.9 | reach into every single corner of our lives, and they reach ever further into the lives |
| 0:56.4 | of health care workers. So find us on Saturdays wherever you listen to your podcasts. It's Amicus. |
| 1:02.2 | That's A.M.I. C.U.S. from the Latin, your friend with me, Dahlia Lithwick, looking forward to talking to you. |
| 1:14.4 | At The Nocturnist, we are careful to ensure that all stories comply with health care privacy laws. |
| 1:19.7 | Details may have been changed to ensure patient confidentiality. |
| 1:23.2 | All views expressed are those of the person speaking and not their employer. |
| 1:27.6 | Welcome back to the Nocturnists, Postro America. I'm Dr. Ali Block. |
| 1:36.3 | This week, we're looking at a very specific corner of the abortion world. It's an issue we've |
| 1:40.9 | heard about over and over again as one of the most important impacts of the Dobbs decision, but it's also been one of the least covered. So today we're diving into medical |
| 1:49.0 | training and education. Training to be an abortion provider has never been like training |
| 1:54.5 | for any other medical specialty. It's rarely covered in med school, and only certain residency |
| 1:59.5 | programs even offer abortion |
| 2:01.0 | training at all. |
| 2:02.6 | When I was in residency, even in an unrestricted state with a strong abortion care program, |
| 2:07.5 | I still did an elective in Mexico City, simply to get the practice I felt I needed to be |
| 2:12.0 | trained to competence. |
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