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6. Are Barbershops the Cutting Edge of Healthcare Delivery?

Freakonomics, M.D.

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Society & Culture, Science

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 September 2021

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Bapu Jena talks with a barber and a pharmacist whose study brought healthcare to Black men in Los Angeles who were getting haircuts. They discuss its impact on high blood pressure among customers — and how unconventional approaches like this could help build trust.

Transcript

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In the late 1980s, Eric Muhammad was a teenager growing up in Venice, California and he needed

0:10.9

a job.

0:11.9

I wandered into a barber shop and asked him if I could help him by sweeping hair and he

0:18.0

said sure and I started sweeping hair for him and watching him cut I learned how to cut

0:25.0

hair.

0:26.0

Job kept Eric busy, helped keep him out of trouble and started him on a career path that

0:31.4

he's continued for almost three decades.

0:34.1

I noticed some guys would come and get their hair cut and stay and you'd say to yourself

0:39.0

why is he still here?

0:40.0

Well, there's a vibe here, there's a community here, there's a conversation going on.

0:45.0

This is the community hub.

0:50.3

And that makes barber shops ideal for something else, medical care.

0:55.5

From the Freakonomics Radio Network, welcome to Freakonomics MD.

1:06.6

I'm your host, Bob Ujena.

1:10.0

I'm an economist but I'm also a medical doctor and in each episode I'll dissect a fascinating

1:15.6

question at the sweet spot between health and economics.

1:19.0

Today, can bringing medical care to barber shops, improve the health of black men and

1:25.3

can it help heal the fractured trust between the black community and the medical establishment?

1:38.8

A little later in the show, we'll hear from former FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb about

1:44.0

the specific issue of vaccine hesitancy.

1:47.2

But first, we're going to dig into an innovative study about black barber shops that illustrates

1:52.2

the kind of thinking we may need to rebuild trust in the medical system.

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