6/8: Three years later, the Pandemic breaks #PRC healthcare, confidence and recovery: 6/8: Chaos Under Heaven: Trump, Xi, and the Battle for the Twenty-First Century, by Josh Rogin.
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6/8: Three years later, the Pandemic breaks #PRC healthcare, confidence and recovery: 6/8: Chaos Under Heaven: Trump, Xi, and the Battle for the Twenty-First Century, by Josh Rogin.
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The explosive, behind-the-scenes story of Donald Trump’s high-stakes confrontation with Beijing, from an award-winning Washington Post columnist and peerless observer of the U.S.–China relationship
There was no calm before the storm. Donald Trump’s surprise electoral victory shattered the fragile understanding between Washington and Beijing, putting the most important relationship of the twenty-first century in the hands of a novice who had bitterly attacked China from the campaign trail. Almost as soon as he entered office, Trump brought to a boil the long-simmering rivalry between the two countries, while also striking up a “friendship” with Chinese president Xi Jinping — whose manipulations of his American counterpart would undermine the White House’s already disjointed response to the historic challenge of a rising China. All the while, Trump’s own officials fought to steer U.S. policy from within.
By the time the COVID-19 pandemic erupted in Wuhan, Trump’s love-hate relationship with Xi had sparked a trade war, while Xi’s aggression had pushed the world to the brink of a new Cold War. But their quarrel had also forced a long-overdue reckoning within the United States over China’s audacious foreign-influence operations, horrific human rights abuses, and creeping digital despotism. Ironically, this awakening was one of the biggest foreign-policy victories of Trump’s fractious term in office
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| 0:35.0 | I'm John Batchsearth and I'm very pleased to continue my conversation with Josh Rogan |
| 0:40.7 | of the Washington Post, whose new book is Chaos Under Heaven, Trump, Xi and the Battle |
| 0:45.8 | for the 21st Century. Josh helps us identify the whole of society approach that the |
| 0:51.7 | People's Republic of China was taking to influence, that's a generous diplomatic word, decisions |
| 0:57.7 | made by politicians and voters in the United States towards the People's Republic, which |
| 1:03.8 | is declared very clearly to the Obama administration, to the Trump administration and will continue |
| 1:09.1 | to declare it into the future. Our integrity, territorial integrity, our sovereignty will |
| 1:16.0 | not be challenged, will not be challenged. However, they come here to undermine our understanding |
| 1:22.0 | of our sovereignty, of our integrity. All right, fine. How do they do that? Josh, first |
| 1:27.2 | before we go to Wall Street, what is the Thousand Talent Plan? What was it? |
| 1:30.9 | Well, the Thousand Talent Program is just one, the largest one, but only one of over 200 |
| 1:38.2 | talent recruitment programs of the Chinese Communist Party run to attract foreign scientists, |
| 1:44.1 | academics and researchers, to contribute to their system. Now, there's a part of that |
| 1:49.5 | that's overt and public, but there's a big part of it that's covert and secret, and that's |
| 1:53.9 | the part that the US government has started to crack down on. Mostly in 2018 and 2019, |
| 2:00.3 | and still continues to the stay. Basically, what the US government kept finding was that |
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