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From ABC, this is the 10% happier podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

I guess I'm now a memoirist. I'm only written one book but I suppose you could call it a memoir.

The person who is widely acknowledged to be one of the master memoirists in American culture though is Mary Carr.

She's a poet by training but she's written a bunch of best-selling memoirs including the Liars Club and Lit

in which she tells very colorful stories about her own life which has been truly, truly fascinating.

And in recent years one of the interesting parts of Mary Carr's life is that she's become a meditator.

So I invited her on and we had a fascinating discussion. I think you're going to enjoy it. Here's Mary.

So the question I want to ask you first is, apparently you got into meditation. How did that happen?

I found myself newly sober in a mental institution. And when you find yourself in a mental institution a lot of suggestions

that people have made that you were too cool to take, you're suddenly you realize you know my approach to things.

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