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The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk

584: Craig Robinson - The "Must-Have" Qualities For Coaching Excellence, Becoming a Better Listener, Learning From a Legend, and Thanksgiving Dinner With a Young Barack Obama

The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk

Ryan Hawk

Careers, Management, Business

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2024

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Craig Robinson is the host of Ways to Win. He’s the executive director of the National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC). From 2017-2020, he served as the VP of Player Development for the New York Knicks. Previously, he was a Division I head men’s basketball coach at Oregon State and Brown. He also is the brother of former First Lady Michelle Obama.

Notes:

  • What Craig learned from Coach Pete Carill about recruiting: There is a sales element to it. And one of the most important skills to develop is to become a great LISTENER. Ask questions, listen, and ask more questions. Curiosity is the ultimate form of respect. Coach Carill won over Craig’s dad because he was curious. That’s a good lesson for all of us.
  • President Obama (Craig's brother-in-law) said Craig’s discipline and diligence enhanced his presidential campaign. “Craig doesn’t profess to know the specifics of politics the way he knows the X’s and O’s of basketball, but I think what he does understand is the need to wake up every morning doing your best and having a positive attitude. And him communicating that to me was always very helpful.”
  • When (future President) Barack Obama was dating Craig's sister (Michelle), he told their family at Thanksgiving dinner that he had aspirations and a plan to be the President of the United States. It seemed crazy at the time, but he made it happen.
  • What are the "must-have" qualities to be a coach on Craig's staff?
    • Connect with people
    • Lifelong learning
    • Curiosity
    • Fill in gaps (be strong where Craig is not)
    • Must be a good listener
  • What Craig looked for in a player when recruiting:
    • Baseline talent (table stakes)
    • 2-3 "bucket-getters"
    • High IQ
    • Flexible
  • After graduating from Princeton, where he played for Pete Carril and was twice named the Ivy League player of the year, Criag wanted to coach. Instead, he went to graduate school and succeeded in the financial world, including spending seven years as a vice president at Morgan Stanley Dean Witter. Then, he pivoted away and took an assistant job on Bill Carmody’s staff at Northwestern. That job eventually led Robinson to Brown, where in two seasons he overhauled the program with his work ethic, tough love, and relentless demands on his players. He put a dictionary in the locker room for players to look up the words he used, a tradition that has continued at Oregon State.
    • What made him not immediately go into coaching? Pete Craill telling him to get a real job. It’s amazing the influence the people we look up to can have on us.
  • Craig's fondest memory?
    • January 20, 2009. He went to President Obama's inauguration in Washington D.C. He then flew to a game on the west coast (as the head coach of Oregon State). And received a standing ovation from the visiting team's crowd as he walked out!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Sports has the ability to bring people together to transform even if you don't play any

0:06.4

sports you have been coached because your parents are your first coaches.

0:10.7

College coach played basketball at Princeton. I looked for lifelong learners. You

0:16.8

had to outwork folks, outthink folks, and out scheme them. So you need players who can change.

0:24.0

What made you leave basketball and then also what made you come back?

0:28.0

I always like to acknowledge when somebody asked me a question that no one's asked me before.

0:33.0

This is one.

0:34.0

He said, you don't want to be a fucking coach.

0:37.0

And I was stunned.

0:39.0

It would be just your luck to be a black kid from the south side of Chicago with a Princeton degree and all

0:46.6

you can do is hang on to this basketball. When your sister marries this skinny

0:52.1

dude named Barack Obama. Fast forward to 2008. You become a head coach for the first time.

0:58.0

Your sister has a pretty big job as well.

1:02.0

It was as if I was watching myself out of body.

1:06.0

I come out to this roaring standing ovation.

1:11.0

It was the most remarkable thing I'd ever been a part of in basketball.

1:20.0

What if you had access to tomorrow's tools today?

1:25.0

Well, in notion you do.

1:28.0

It's the AI-powered workspace where any team can turn ideas into action.

1:35.0

Notion is the AI-powered workspace where the everyday everything takes care of itself.

1:41.0

Meetings have summaries, docs find themselves,

1:45.2

and every question has an answer.

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