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Medicine Stories

58. Poisonous Plant Spirit Medicine - Kathryn Solie

Medicine Stories

Amber M Hill

Herbs, Health & Fitness, Ancestry, Alternativemedicine, Herbalism, Alternative Health, Dreams, Healing, Society & Culture, Psychedelics

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2019

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Poisonous plants have long been misunderstood and even forbidden, yet they hold a special medicinal power. Let’s do as our ancestors did and carefully, respectfully ally ourselves with this potent family of healing herbs.

IN THE INTRO:

  • Poisonous plants, visionary journeys, and Samhain/Halloween witches

IN THE INTERVIEW:

  • How trees and plants companioned Kathryn through her dark and disconnected teen years, led to her meditation practice and relationship with wrathful deities, and eventually brought her to the poison plant path
  • Safety: we are not talking about ingesting these plants, but working with their spirits
  • Making space to integrate traumatic experiences
  • My recent experience with belladonna
  • What happens when many people all tune in to the same plant spirit
  • The effects of deliriant plants
  • How (not) to work with datura, a gateway plant into underworld/angelic work
  • How the scent of plants can bring us into deeper relationship with them
  • Gender, pronouns, and plants
  • Reclaiming lost visionary lineages
  • Being aware of projecting our desires and our wounds onto plants
  • When plant knowledge transmissions get broken through the ages
  • When Amanita muscaria came to Kathryn in a dream
  • Exploring the myth of Persephone
  • The dose makes the medicine/poison- the poisonous plants used in modern medicine, and the different mechanisms of action by which they can harm

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Transcript

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0:00.0

There's this major break in our ancestral Stories, the podcast where we are

0:19.1

remembering that story is medicine, magic is real, and healing is open-ended and endless.

0:27.0

I'm Amber Magnolia Hill, and today I'm talking to Catherine Soli all about poisonous plant medicine.

0:35.7

And of course I'm thinking about sown coming up, Halloween, this very pivotal, very sacred time of year that I think no matter how you feel

0:51.5

about either one of those holidays which have come to be conflated into one.

0:57.1

You can feel it. There's just something magical about October and late October and early November and our ancestors felt it too.

1:08.6

And something that I always recall learning about. It was in the book Witchcraft Medicine that I read about 13 years ago when my oldest was a baby and in the show notes for this episode

1:21.8

Catherine and I have shared I think five awesome books about

1:27.6

poisonous plant medicine. So that book is there. It's written by three German

1:32.2

scholars. It's not like a modern, like a pagan book written by some 22 year old. It's really a neat deep dive into European uses of plants and especially in, you know, in the old days and the old ways and in the wise women who were named

1:55.6

witches and sometimes persecuted killed burnt alive for their knowledge of herb lore and healing and control over big things like life and death and one of the things I always remember learning about that book is where

2:17.2

this idea that we have today of Halloween witches flying on their brooms came from and it's really tied into the poisonous plants, many of which

2:25.6

we'll talk about today and how these wise women would use them in ointments, because of course you don't want to take these internally

2:36.3

in any regular dose that you would take for any other herb.

2:40.9

Catherine and I talk about that so please always consider safety first when working with poisonous plants, just essences basically or topical appointments, and that depending on the herbs they worked with they would induce visionary states and that these

2:57.2

visionary states were likened to flying and you know theome Association is being associated with the hearth and the home and just like

3:07.1

taking care of everyday business and everyday life within the family within the village and the community.

3:14.3

And you know, it's really fascinating looking into the history of

3:18.8

of witchcraft in Europe and the witch trials and the burnings and it's just it goes so deep and really there's this huge association.

3:31.0

It wasn't just that these were wise women and healers, although of course there was that too, but with Christianity and patriarchy coming down so hard, it was specifically this

3:45.0

just sounds so absurd and saying to us today,

3:48.0

it just sounds so absurd and insane to us today because it is.

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