58. Jim Sterling on coming out as non-binary, gaming, wrestling and mental health
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🗓️ 26 March 2021
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Jim Sterling is an iconic games journalist, critic, YouTuber, you name it. They talk to me about coming out as non-binary a few months ago, the attack on LGBTQ rights, on mental health, on the gaming industry, wrestling, and so much else! I'm a huge fan.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, hello, hello, if you're joining, please like and subscribe. I am very, very excited |
| 0:12.1 | to be joined by Jim. And by the way, I should apologise firstly. I don't wear caps on camera. |
| 0:18.4 | I'm not having a midlife crisis. No problem. I mean, they just, |
| 0:24.2 | it's actually a sign of a midlife crisis then. I'm, I'm done for because we've got this, we've got |
| 0:31.6 | oh, this is a new one. It's a little extra. It's a little... I don't think so. I think you've |
| 0:38.3 | toned it down if anything, Jim. I think you are looking pretty on point, I would say. I mean, |
| 0:46.0 | you could have just stopped it at pretty, but very much. Firstly, how the hell have you been during |
| 0:54.1 | what I can only describe as this? This, yeah, it's been this, it's been tough. You know, luckily, |
| 1:04.8 | luckily the main business, the whole YouTube and everything, the Patreon that supports the |
| 1:10.3 | business, that's been fairly coronavirus. We've been, we've done okay there. Thank God, |
| 1:16.8 | because YouTube as a medium has not made any easy for many creators. So that was good. |
| 1:25.4 | Not being able to do the pro wrestling side of what I do, that was, that's been hard. |
| 1:32.0 | I managed two shows last year. Some things are opening up now, so that's good, but that was |
| 1:38.3 | difficult. But otherwise, you know, I'm in a weird position where there's a lot of hassle and a lot |
| 1:44.0 | of fights to put out, but on a personal level, I'm doing really well. So, you know, it's swings and |
| 1:53.3 | roundabouts, I suppose. So what LGBTQ people will we always do is, plus, sorry, always remember the |
| 2:01.5 | plus, is whenever we always talk about often, when we meet for the first time, about how we came out |
| 2:07.9 | et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And we're going to go down that route. That's what we're going to do. |
| 2:12.3 | So you're one of the most high profile non-binary people on YouTube. So tell me about, don't say it, |
| 2:21.6 | just don't, if you don't sign it, then I don't have to have it play on my mind. Oh, good point, |
| 2:26.2 | no pressure. I'm just seeing the facts, though, that that is a fact. So tell me about your, |
| 2:33.6 | tell me about that, that road to coming out. And there will be some people, by the way, who don't |
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