Welcome to How Leaders Lead where every week you get to listen in while I interview some of the very best leaders in the world.

I break down the key learning so that by the end of the episode, you'll have something simple that you can apply as you develop into a better leader.

And that's what this podcast is all about.

Now, today's guest is my good friend, Neil Eletrage, a world-renowned orthopedic surgeon who works

with the top athletes in the world, athletes like Tom Brady and Brooks Kepka.

Now, I'm going to say something here that you might think

makes me a little crazy. It's a little provocative, but stick with me. As a leader, you shouldn't chase

passion. Now, I know what you're thinking out there. David, you've lost your mind. Everybody should be passionate. But I mean it. If what

drives you is simply passion, you are setting yourself up for burnout, which is the absolute

worst place you should be as a leader. And so while I don't want you to chase passion,

I do have another idea for you. I want you to chase purpose instead. The great leaders I know understand why they do, what they do,

and I'll tell you, purpose will sustain you a lot more than passion. You know, we've all fallen in love with something one day and had that go away the next,

but purpose sustains what you do.

In my interview with Neil, he shares several stories and how this plays out in his life,

his career, and in the operating room.

And I can't think of a better leader for you to learn from on this critically important insight.

So here we go. We cover so much in this episode,

and I can't wait for you to listen in.

Here's my conversation with my good friend and soon to be yours.

It's a conversation with Dr. Neil Eletrox.

Neil, I want to start out by just taking a moment to thank you for my own physical well-being.

You know, a couple of years ago, I had Achilles

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