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The How of Business - How to start, run, grow and exit a small business.

578 – Return on Experience with Vance Morris

The How of Business - How to start, run, grow and exit a small business.

Henry Lopez, Levante Business Group

Entrepreneurship, Business

4.7522 Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

The loyalty, referrals, and pricing power a small business gains by consistently delivering remarkable customer experiences, even when the ROI isn't directly measurable in dollars.

Show Notes Page: https://www.thehowofbusiness.com/578-vance-morris-return-on-experience/

Vance Morris shares how small businesses can create Disney-inspired customer experiences to drive loyalty, stop competing on price, and generate long-term profitability.

Customer experience isn't just for theme parks, it's a competitive edge for every small business. In this episode of The How of Business, Henry Lopez welcomes back Vance Morris, a customer experience expert, keynote speaker, and bestselling author, to explore how entrepreneurs can apply Disney-inspired strategies to delight customers and grow profits.

Vance's journey is as unique as his message: from working security at a birth control factory, to a decade leading operations at Disney, to running a premium carpet cleaning business, and now helping small business owners systematize exceptional service. Along the way, he discovered that systems equal freedom and that creating unforgettable experiences doesn't require massive budgets—just consistency, creativity, and attention to detail.

One of the key lessons is what Morris calls Return on Experience: while you may not be able to track every dollar of ROI like you would with a marketing campaign, great customer experiences yield loyalty, referrals, and pricing power. "You won't profit unless you implement," he reminds us, underscoring the importance of turning insights into action.

From setting up daily team stand-ups (borrowed from Ritz-Carlton) to scripting customer interactions and reinforcing emotional connections, Vance illustrates how even trades-based businesses can elevate service. He highlights examples from Disney's "line entertainment" practices to simple home service details like wearing booties or protecting corners, proving that small touches build big loyalty.

Henry and Vance also dive into the Loyalty Profit Engine - a retention system designed to keep your business top of mind. With acquisition costs soaring, Vance explains why it's far cheaper (and more profitable) to nurture existing clients. His approach includes monthly print newsletters, follow-up offers, and creative "wow" moments that ensure customers feel valued long after the transaction.

Vance now leads immersive Disney boot camps, taking business owners behind the scenes to study customer experience in action. Participants leave with a blueprint to "Disneyfy" their business on Monday morning. As Henry points out, translating world-class service lessons into everyday businesses is challenging for many owners, and Morris' work bridges that gap.

Whether you're in home services, retail, or professional consulting, this conversation will help you shift from competing on price to commanding loyalty through unforgettable experiences. As Vance puts it: "At the end of any interaction, you want your customers to say, 'Oh my God, you'll never guess what happened…'"—for all the right reasons.

This episode is hosted by Henry Lopez. The How of Business podcast focuses on helping you start, run, grow and exit your small business. The How of Business is a top-rated podcast for small business owners and entrepreneurs. Find the best podcast, small business coaching, resources and trusted service partners for small business owners and entrepreneurs at our website https://TheHowOfBusiness.com

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0:00.0

Welcome to the How of Business with your host, Henry Lopez, the podcast that helps you start, run, and grow your small business.

0:13.0

And now, here is your host.

0:15.0

Welcome to this episode of The How of Business. This is Henry Lopez, and I'd like to return back to the show Vance Morris, Vance. Welcome back to the show. Well, I appreciate you having me again. I must

0:25.3

have done something right. And it's been a while and it's fantastic to have you back on,

0:29.4

way overdue. So on this episode, I'm welcoming back of Vance Morris. He was on episode 28,

0:36.9

back in 2016, a long time ago. And so Vance is a

0:42.0

customer experience expert, a keynote speaker, a bestselling author, and he's going to share

0:47.4

how small businesses can apply Disney inspired strategies to create unforgettable customer

0:53.8

experiences, to drive loyalty, and to stop

0:57.3

competing on price. You can find all of the How of Business resources, including the show

1:02.2

notes page for this episode. It'll be a couple of important links there. So just go to the how

1:06.6

of business.com. That's where you can also learn about my one-on-one and group coaching programs.

1:12.6

I also invite you to consider supporting and joining my community on Patreon and subscribe,

1:18.0

wherever you might be listening, so you don't miss any new episodes. So Vance Morris is an

1:22.9

authority on customer experience and retention, a keynote speaker, as I mentioned, a consultant,

1:27.7

and a best-selling author. Vance has helped owners get, serve, and keep clients for life

1:34.8

by creating experiences and with response required marketing. He's a former birth control

1:42.0

factory security guard, turned Disney leader, turned bankrupt

1:46.2

out-of-work executive, turned carpet cleaner, very successful business there, turned successful

1:51.8

entrepreneur. We're going to get a little bit of a snippet of that journey. And so Vance,

1:57.7

like I said, was on episode 28 back in 2016 when I started this podcast.

2:03.3

And so nine years later, I have the privilege of having them back on the show.

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