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🗓️ 5 October 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Thank you. In today's episode of crawl space, we speak with private investigator Joe DeLoo and Lance. |
| 0:34.4 | This is a really great conversation about his work, his background. |
| 0:38.5 | We get into stalking and he tells us some stories. |
| 0:42.0 | What do you think of this conversation? |
| 0:43.6 | I love that we have these people on. |
| 0:45.7 | This is all the result of CrimeCon. |
| 0:47.9 | We could go on and on about how much we enjoy meeting new people when we get together |
| 0:53.5 | in this community that we have. |
| 0:55.2 | And Joe is a new friend of the show introduced to us by an old friend of the show, |
| 0:59.4 | Laura Petler. |
| 1:00.2 | You're right. |
| 1:00.8 | He talks to us about stalking. |
| 1:02.4 | He finally gives us about as clear of an answer as we can expect when we're trying to figure out what exactly qualifies as stalking. |
| 1:12.2 | Because we've had this question come up. |
| 1:13.8 | We've had guests come on who have been stalked. |
| 1:16.7 | They've had protective orders against the people who have stalked them. |
| 1:20.5 | But there's always this gray area about like, well, what exactly is stalking and when does it become something more? |
| 1:26.8 | When does it escalate? And he very |
| 1:28.7 | articulately breaks that down for us and for the listener. So super educational conversation. |
| 1:33.8 | And you may recognize Joe from an episode of Dateline about the murder of Jeffrey Hammond. |
| 1:41.3 | And you can find out more about Joe on his website at PGI Executives.com. He is the president |
| 1:50.9 | and owner of Premier Group International, which is an investigative and security corporation. So we hope you |
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