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572 // The Girl Who Took Down Gacy w/ Courtney Lund O'Neil

Missing

Crawlspace Media

True Crime, News, Society & Culture

3.83.3K Ratings

🗓️ 24 August 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by a new friend of the show, someone who puts a deeply personal spin on a familiar serial killer story. Courtney Lund O'Neil brings her debut book Postmortem to the table, a true crime memoire, a harrowing account of her mother's involvement in the conviction of serial killer John Wayne Gacy. This episode was originally published on Crawlspace on July 23rd, 2025. We highly recommend Postmortem and you can pick up your copy here: ⁠https://bookshop.org/p/books/postmortem-what-survives-the-john-wayne-gacy-murders-courtney-lund-o-neil/21324706?ean=9780806542997&next=t&next=t⁠ Check out Courtney's website: ⁠https://www.courtneylundoneil.com/⁠ Follow Courtney: ⁠http://instagram.com/courtneylundoneil⁠ ⁠http://twitter.com/courtneylundo⁠ ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@courtneylundoneil⁠ Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Spotify:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The

0:07.0

The Today on missing, we are speaking with author Courtney Lund O'Neill who wrote a great book called Postmortem,

0:43.1

What Survives the John Wayne Gacy Murders.

0:45.8

This episode first played on Crawl Space about a month ago.

0:49.3

Lance, what did you think of this conversation?

0:50.5

I think this conversation coming up really scratches an itch that a lot of our

0:54.7

listeners have. We discuss a serial killer that is among the top echelon of serial killer lore,

1:02.0

and we don't really cover those like top-level serial killers often. We don't often cover in-depth

1:08.4

Bundy or BTK.

1:13.1

And this one, for example, John Wayne Gacy.

1:19.4

We've done a couple of episodes just peripherally around people involved with the murders and with the trial.

1:24.2

But this one is a deeply personal story that I can't wait for the listeners to hear.

1:28.2

But Tim, I want you to give me your deeply personal take on your mood.

1:33.1

How are you today? Doing great over here. Thanks for asking. Yeah, really excited to share this interview with a great author. Her name is Courtney Lund O'Neill, and she wrote this book.

1:39.0

It's called Postmortem, What Survives the John Wayne Gasey Murders. And it really is a great book.

1:45.9

We kind of call it true crime adjacent because it is a bit of a memoir.

1:50.6

That's another good way to put it.

1:51.7

A true crime memoir because Courtney writes this story about her mom, who was a friend with Rob

1:59.6

Peast.

2:01.1

And Rob Peast went missing and really was abducted and murdered by John Wayne Gasey.

2:07.2

So Courtney Lundoniel's mom, Kim Byers, worked with Rob in this pharmacy in 1978 and was one of the last people to see him alive.

2:17.8

And for anybody who follows John Wayne Gasey's series of murders, the subsequent trial,

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