569: Shiny Happy Certainty & How Women Led in the Early Church with Nijay Gupta
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.5 • 4.4K Ratings
🗓️ 14 June 2023
⏱️ 88 minutes
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Summary
Two events have our attention. First, a new documentary about reality TV's Dugger family is exposing the ugly side of the Christian fundamentalism, patriarchy, and legalism taught by Bill Gothard's ministry. And, Christian broadcaster and pillar of the Religious Right, Pat Robertson, died this week at 93. Was there a link between the popularity of Gothard and Robertson for a whole generation of American Christians? Then, New Testament scholar Nijay Gupta talks about his new book "Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church." And he participates in an unexpected therapy session with Skye about their shared background. Also this week—Kaitlyn is learning German, book bans backfire on the Bible in Utah, and Phil rescues pets from fallen ministry leaders.
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0:00 - Intro
1:38 - Show Starts
2:27 - Theme Song
2:49 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food
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4:01 - Kaitlyn learning German
7:16 - Bible banned in schools
15:00 - Shiny Happy People and Pat Robertson
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51:30 - Interview Intro
52:58 - Nijay Gupta
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1:05:20 Women in the Old Testament
1:11: 21 Women in Rome
1:19:59 Paul and pragmatism
1:27:22 - End Credits
Links mentioned in news segment:
Utah parent upset by book bans gets Bible pulled from school shelves to expose 'bad faith process' - https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/utah-parent-upset-book-bans-gets-bible-pulled-school-shelves-expose-ba-rcna87450
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The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion by Jonathan Haidt - https://amzn.to/3qwccOT
WITH by Skye Jethani - https://amzn.to/3JbZNpI
Other resources:
Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church by Nijay Gupta
The Making of Biblical Womanhood: How the Subjugation of Women Became Gospel Truth by Beth Allison Barr - https://amzn.to/3Xcgbwn
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to The Holy Post. Two events have our attention this week. First, a new documentary |
| 0:05.6 | about reality TV's Dugger family is exposing the ugly side of Christian fundamentalism, patriarchy, |
| 0:12.3 | and the legalism taught by Bill Gotherd's ministry. And secondly, Christian broadcaster and |
| 0:17.7 | pillar of the religious right Pat Robertson died this week at age 93. What's the link |
| 0:23.3 | between the popularity of Gotherd and Robertson for a whole generation of American Christians? |
| 0:28.8 | Then, New Testament scholar Nejegupta talks about his new book, Tell Her Story, |
| 0:34.0 | How Women Led, Taught, and Ministers in the Early Church. And he participates in an unexpected |
| 0:39.2 | therapy session with me about our shared background. All of that, plus, Caitlin is learning German, |
| 0:45.2 | book bans, backfire on the Bible in Utah, and Phil rescues pets from fallen ministry leaders. |
| 0:51.6 | For Holy Post Plus subscribers, we have some fantastic bonus content this week as well. |
| 0:56.4 | First, a new episode of Christian asks about what it really means to take the Lord's name in vain. |
| 1:01.7 | Here's a hint, it has nothing to do with how you say his name. And we have a brilliant bonus |
| 1:07.0 | interview with Nejegupta, where he explains the context and meaning of 1 Timothy 2, where Paul says |
| 1:12.7 | that he doesn't allow women to teach or have authority over men. This one will absolutely |
| 1:18.0 | blow your minds. And for those of you who aren't yet Holy Post Plus subscribers, sorry, no |
| 1:23.4 | blown minds for you. But it's not too late. Go to HolyPost.com and learn all about the amazing |
| 1:29.2 | content, merchandise, live streams, and resources that you can access by joining Holy Post Plus. |
| 1:35.6 | All right, here's episode 569. Hey, they're welcome back to the podcast. This is Phil Vissier. |
| 1:40.9 | It's Holy Post podcast. I'm here with Skyjitani. Hi, Sky. Hello, Phil. Hi, and Caitlin Shes. |
| 1:46.6 | Hi, Caitlin. Hi, Phil. Hi, Sky. You're in the, you're in the Black Death Star, but I, there's a, |
| 1:53.2 | is that a big piece of wood behind you? Are they doing some work in the, in the Death Star? I made |
| 1:58.4 | the, those are two leaves I made for our dining room table from wood I got at Home Depot, and they |
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