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The Conqueror's Office

Hello and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast. I'm your host John DeLin.

We're coming to you on September 3rd, 2015.

And I have to say this is an episode that's just super exciting for me. It's one that I've been looking forward to for several years and I'll just get right to it.

Today we're interviewing Dr. Scott Miller. I first learned of Scott Miller when I was accepted to a PhD program in psychology and I started reading up on psychology and I learned about this guy, kind of a world class psychologist, telling therapists that

some of the most important things that psychologists could attend to were things that really had nothing necessarily to do with the mode of psychology treatment itself.

And these traits are called the common factors and they have to do with things like listening well, positive regard, empathy, belief and conviction in one's mode of therapy.

And what Scott was basically saying was that the style or the mode or the clinical intervention that you choose as a psychotherapist maybe isn't as important as just some of those basic human skills that we all know are super important.

Now we're going to have Scott correct where I got that wrong. But that was really revolutionary to me at the time because I was just about to join a program that was a clinical psychology program.

And it was all about the intervention. And so that's when I first learned about Scott, but then later Scott was invited to give a lecture in Logan as sort of a world class specialist and then his focus was on helping therapists become the best possible therapist they could be.

And I noticed in Scott's CV in his resume that he had graduated. I believe undergraduate from BYU is that right Scott?

That's right. And then it got his PhD at the University of Utah. Is that right?

That is right.

Yeah, so so I was like, wow, this is a world class psychologist literally known all over the world, mentioned in every psychology textbook or sort of, you know, curriculum that I had been involved with.

And he came out of Utah. So after Scott's lecture in Logan a few years back, I was able to have lunch with them. And I talked to Scott a bit. And it turns out that Scott Miller, Dr. Scott Miller also was raised LDS.

And at the time he told me about this really cool book. He was finishing up about his mission of sort of a mission memoir of his time in Sweden. And I got really excited about it. And so Scott and I have kept in touch. And, you know, this month, Scott's ready to release his book called The Book of Immormon. Is that right Scott?

That's right. The real life and strange times of an LDS missionary.

Yeah. And, you know, I've read I've read probably a few Mormon memoirs over the past few years, specifically I can think of Elna Baker's memoir, join a Brooks's memoir and Ryan McElvain's memoir. And this, this, this is this book in my opinion is every bit worthy to stand toe to toe.

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