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TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

#561: The American Renaissance with Matt Cole

TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast

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🗓️ 4 December 2024

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Marty sits down with Matt Cole from Strive to discuss the tidal shift in America driven by bitcoin.


Matt on Twitter: https://x.com/colemacro

Strive: https://strive.com/

0:00 - Intro

0:36 - ESG/DEI disaster isn’t quite over yet

13:52 - Unchained & Coinkite

16:12 - Matt’s background and framing bitcoin for pensions

25:04 - Career risk of missing bitcoin

28:52 - Moving the Overton window and helping clients with bitcoin

33:12 - Zaprite & SOTE

34:45 - Making the most of bitcoin

43:07 - How using bitcoin changes your understanding

48:48 - AI machine payments, regulations and altcoins

56:34 - Trump admin stepping out of America’s way

1:03:21 - America has centuries left

1:13:33 - Wrapup

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0:00.0

You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

0:10.0

If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

0:16.0

So it's all acting like safe haven.

0:18.0

I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their

0:23.5

currency, Bitcoin wins. In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

0:29.2

I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin.

0:31.8

If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

0:36.2

The Bitcoin is ESG argument.

0:38.3

We, we, I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but I helped start an off-grid,

0:44.3

flare gas mitigation, Bitcoin mining company, Great American Mining.

0:48.3

And so we were on oil and gas well pads upstream in the Bakken mitigating flare gas in North Dakota.

0:59.1

And I mean, I went on a multi-year brigade against ESG because that's what I think I realized

1:09.0

at Great American mining is like no matter how hard you try to convince people like,

1:15.6

hey, we're mitigating flare gas, we're being extremely efficient with the energy, the goalposts just always moved.

1:21.6

But you can make the argument that Bitcoin is the most ESG friendly asset in the world if you want to open source code.

1:30.3

Anybody who saves it is going to see their purchasing power increase over time.

1:36.3

The energy intersection really forces you to be as efficient as possible.

1:41.3

And we tried to run with those narratives for a while, but people were always

1:44.9

like, oh, not good enough. Yeah, it really exposes the ESG for what it is, right, which is a political

1:50.2

movement, that this asset, gee, governance, you can't find a better asset with regards to governance

1:56.5

than Bitcoin, S, democratizing access to being able to opt out from financial systems from

2:03.0

corrupt governments, you can't find a better system from that, the ability to utilize energy

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