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The Al Franken Podcast

56: Uncle Sam (Roger McNamee) & Auntie Trust (Zephyr Teachout) Talk Facebook, Google, Amazon & Democracy

The Al Franken Podcast

The Al Franken Podcast

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4.67.7K Ratings

🗓️ 11 April 2021

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Early Facebook Investor McNamee & Anti-Trust Lawyer Teachout Discuss Dangers Posed by Data Behemoths

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, we have an important one today, you know, for a change.

0:10.5

Oh, I suppose you're saying, ow, every podcast you do is important.

0:15.0

But you know what?

0:16.1

I'm not going to argue with you.

0:18.1

Okay?

0:19.3

Today we're going to be looking at Facebook and some

0:23.2

other mega corporations with maybe too much market power, which use that power in a way

0:30.8

that goes from not good to really bad, to kind of dangerous, all the way to really dangerous.

0:40.5

My guests are Roger McNamee, a venture capitalist, who put Cheryl Sandberg and Mark Zuckerberg

0:48.2

together, but now he is one of the fiercest critics of Facebook for reasons.

0:54.5

He laid bare in his 2019 book, Zucked.

0:59.2

And also with me, Zephyr Teachout.

1:02.0

Zephyr teaches, see, law at Fordham University.

1:07.2

And her latest book is Break Him Up.

1:09.7

Break him up. Break them up.

1:12.0

In this case, your Amazon, your Google, your Tyson Chicken, and again, your Facebook.

1:21.5

During the 2016 election, we started seeing signs of how a platform like Facebook could actually be a threat to our democracy

1:31.4

and how they may indeed have tipped a really close election to Donald Trump with the help of the Russians.

1:41.5

Then, just this past January 6th, how these platforms can contribute

1:49.1

to Americans, who I guess believe themselves to be patriots, to them storming the U.S. Capitol

1:56.5

in an unthinkable assault on just who we are as a country. And I have been concerned for years

2:05.5

about how Facebook and Google and Amazon use Americans' personal information to solidify their

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