554 | OCD with ADHD: Could your anxiety be OCD? with Natalia Aíza

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Eric Tivers, LCSW, ADHD-CCSP

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4.7 • 919 Ratings

🗓️ 7 July 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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What is OCD, really? It’s far more than the stereotypes of handwashing, tapping, or lining up your pens just right. On today’s episode, Eric is joined by Natalia Aíza — a therapist, parent, writer, and co-founder of Kairos Wellness Collective — who specializes in supporting individuals and families navigating OCD and anxiety. Together, they explore how OCD can show up in less obvious ways, especially for those with ADHD. You’ll hear: ✅ Why OCD is often missed or misdiagnosed in ADHD brains ✅ How intense nostalgia, perfectionism, and social media checking can all be forms of OCD ✅ The difference between typical anxiety and OCD ✅ Why intrusive thoughts don’t define you ✅ How exposure response prevention (ERP) and medication can help ✅ Eric’s own reflections on healing unexpected layers through EMDR and discovering his autism If you’ve ever felt stuck in mental loops, struggled with perfectionism, or wondered whether your patterns might be more than “just” ADHD, this episode is for you. Learn more about Natalia Aiza and Kairos Wellness Collective: 👉 Instagram: 👉 Kairos Wellness Collective: 👉 Email: Ready to take the next step with your ADHD? Don't miss our second 2nd chance Registration Event for the summer ADHD reWired Coaching & Accountability Groups on Thrusday, July 10. Visit to learn more and secure your spot.

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0:00.0	ADHD rewired episode 554.
0:05.0	Since 2014, this has been the podcast for ADHD adults who have really good intentions and a slightly wandering attention.
0:15.0	I'm Eric Tivers. I'm a licensed clinical social worker by training and a coach by design.
0:20.0	I'm your host and I have ADHD.
0:23.0	ABHD rewired is more than just a podcast. You can learn about our coaching and accountability
0:27.3	groups, our virtual co-working community, and more. All at ADHD rewired.com. We are wired for
0:34.6	connection and you are not alone. Learn more by our offerings, including our quarterly live Q&As, get additional resources for every episode, including links to any resources we mentioned on today's show. You can support us on Patreon, sign up for our email newsletter, and more. All at ADHD rewired.com. And if this is your first time listening welcome don't forget to
0:57.7	hit subscribe or follow on your podcast app so you never miss an episode we know this starting is the
1:03.6	hardest part so let's get started welcome back to another episode of ADHD Rewired.
1:18.5	Today's guest is Natalia Aisa, and Italia is a seasoned therapist, parent trainer, writer, and entrepreneur.
1:25.6	Her core missions are to facilitate awareness and healing for those with OCD and to amplify OCD competency among mental health practitioners.
1:29.4	She is the co-founder of Chiroz Wellness Collective, an innovative therapy center that specializes
1:34.5	in OCD and anxiety disorders. In the last three years, Cairo's has expanded to four locations
1:40.5	in Colorado and has served over 2,000 families and individual clients.
1:45.4	Natalia also advocates for OCD awareness and provides free psychoeducation.
1:50.5	I hear a popular Instagram account at let's talk.OCD.
1:55.6	Welcome to the podcast.
1:58.1	Thank you so much for having me, Eric.
2:00.7	So where would you like to start?
2:03.7	Talking about ADHD with OCD is really important because we know that ADHD, as I like to say,
2:11.5	rarely travels alone and often has friends and OCD is often one of those friends.
2:18.7	It's very much so.
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