552 Jesus Gets Us & We Get Data on Christian Nationalists with Kristin Kobes Du Mez Vu
The Holy Post
Phil Vischer
4.5 • 4.4K Ratings
🗓️ 15 February 2023
⏱️ 93 minutes
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Summary
A Christian campaign spent $20 million on two ads during the Super Bowl, but the "He Gets Us" commercials are facing criticism from both the right and left. One side says the ads did not present the gospel. The other says the campaign's funders are bigots. And everyone is wondering if the $20 million could have been spent more effectively. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn offer their takes. Then, Tim Keller has a new article with his prescription for how Christianity can thrive again in America, but does it all come down to overcoming political idolatry? And a new report from PRRI looks at the sobering data about Christian Nationalism. One-third of Americans are either committed Christian Nationalists or very sympathetic to it, and the majority of them are white evangelicals. Historian Kristin Kobes Du Mez is back to discuss the data and explain the link between Christian Nationalism, patriarchy, and authoritarianism. Plus, a candy factory is sued after workers fall into a chocolate vat.
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0:00 - Intro
3:55 - Workers in a vat of chocolate
6:30 - He gets us
28:46 - American Christianity
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57:37 - Interview Intro
59:00 - Kristin Kobes Du Mez
1:11:48 - Christian Nationalism and patriarchy
1:29:15 - Demographics
1:32:36 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in News Segment
Mars Wrigley fined after two workers fell into a tank of chocolate - https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/13/business/mars-wrigley-chocolate-vat-fine/index.html
He Gets Us - https://hegetsus.com
American Christianity is due for a revival by Timothy Keller - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/christianity-secularization-america-renewal-modernity/672948/
Links Mentioned in Interview Segment
Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Kobes Du Mez - https://amzn.to/3xlmodt
Jesus and John Wayne Holy Post Subseries - https://www.holypost.com/articles/categories/jesus-john-wayne
A Christian Nation? Understanding the Threat of Christian Nationalism to American Democracy and Culture - https://www.prri.org/research/a-christian-nation-understanding-the-threat-of-christian-nationalism-to-american-democracy-and-culture/
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Holy Post. The He gets us campaign made quite a splash during the Superbowl, |
| 0:05.4 | but was the $20 million well spent? And what about the criticism coming from the right |
| 0:10.4 | that it didn't present the gospel clearly and from the left that the campaign is actually |
| 0:14.9 | promoting bigotry? Today, Caitlin Filini each give our take on the He gets us campaign. |
| 0:20.8 | Then Tim Keller has a new article with his prescription for how Christianity can thrive again in |
| 0:25.6 | America, but does it all come down to getting rid of political idolatry? And then a new report from |
| 0:31.6 | PRRI looks at the sobering data around Christian nationalism. One-third of Americans are either |
| 0:38.0 | committed Christian nationalists or very sympathetic to it, and the majority of them are white evangelicals. |
| 0:44.5 | Historian Christen Kobes du May is back to discuss the data and explain the link between |
| 0:49.7 | Christian nationalism, patriarchy, and authoritarianism. All that plus a candy factory is being sued |
| 0:56.6 | after workers fall into a vat of chocolate. Reminder about bonus content before we jump into the |
| 1:02.4 | episode. This week exclusively for Holy Post supporters, we have a bonus interview with last week's |
| 1:08.0 | guest, Shane Clayborn, where we talk about American heroes like Washington and Lincoln and cancel |
| 1:14.0 | culture. Should we still venerate these men or should their views on slavery, race, and Native |
| 1:19.0 | Americans disqualify them? What do we do with complicated flawed heroes? Go to HolyPost.com to |
| 1:25.6 | become a Patreon supporter for access to these bonus interviews, exclusive shows like getting |
| 1:30.6 | schooled by Caitlin Chess, merchandise, free books, and our monthly live stream with me and Phil. |
| 1:36.4 | It's everything that a diehard Holy Post fan is longing for. Go to HolyPost.com and click the |
| 1:41.6 | support us button at the top of the page. Okay, here is episode 552. Hey there, welcome back to the |
| 1:48.0 | show. I'm Phil Vichier. This is HolyPost podcast. I'm here with Caitlin Chess. Hi, Caitlin Chess. |
| 1:54.1 | Hi, Phil Vichier. How are you? I'm pretty good. How are you? |
| 1:57.7 | I'm pretty good too. And Skyjitani. Hi Sky. Hello. How's everyone doing? Hello. We're all super |
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