Hi everyone how are you all doing. I hope you all doing so well and welcome back to the

Criminal Maker podcast each episode we dive into the minds of some of the worst

criminals in history and today we are going to be talking about the case of Ben and Erica.

So today's case, oh my God is a crazy one because we are going to be talking about a

killer couple and we don't cover too many killer couples even though there are quite a view

because killer couples are scary. The thought of two people coming together like this

that are already maybe predisposition to murder.

I'm thinking Fred and Rose West,

Ian Brady Myra Hindley, the Ken and Barbie killers,

that is just terrifying that these people can find each other and almost egg each other on and make each other worse.

Ben and Erica, they may not be as infamous as the couples that I have just listed, but they are actually sometimes

compared to some of the infamous killer couples out there. Ben and Erica are often referred to

as the modern day Bonnie and Clyde. Now they definitely

were not as prolific as Bonnie and Clyde and definitely not as infamous but the

two couples definitely shared a lot of the same traits and I will say that

Ben and Erica definitely had the potential to go on and do a lot worse. So that is

what we are going to be getting into today and one more thing I will say

their relationship is very messy very toxic like to the extreme today's case is a little bit all over the place. I will warn you

there but you're just gonna have to keep up with me on today's episode because

there is a lot to unpack and let's dive in.

So we have a killer couple today so we obviously have two backgrounds that we're going to need to talk about and we're going to be talking about Erica first.

So Erica Seyfred but her name when she was born was Erica Grace was born on the 3rd of February 1978 making her an Aquarius. She was born in

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