Hello and welcome to a special edition of Mormon Stories podcast. I'm your host, John

Delin. And we're trying something a bit new. We're doing a video interview over Skype

where I'm interviewing my subjects and we're going to put it up on YouTube. And today,

we're super excited to have back with us together for the first time, Marisa and Carson

called her what it is currently Saturday, May 23rd. And two days ago on May 21st in the evening,

Marisa and Carson were executed from the LDS church. And so we just want to kind of capture that

story. So let's dive in. Who wants to start and kind of tell us, tell us how it happened?

Go for it. So to start off with, we asked when they said that we were both up for church

discipline, we asked if we could do it together. We asked in an email and said, you know, I said,

I don't want the little kids' ex communication, like I had said before. And so I didn't really expect

that they would grant that request, honestly. But they did. They said, okay, then if you want,

you can be tried in front of the entire high council and state presidency and they had us come in

at the same time, but take turns. Yeah, there is a stipulation in the handbook of instructions that

says that if you don't want to be tried by your bishop, then you can be by the stake. And so as women,

you can't do that, which we didn't, we weren't aware of. That's awesome. My best Kate would have

preferred that. Yeah, probably. And then we found after that, someone said that there's a bit of

a precedent for it where a couple of the women who were ex-communicated in the early 90s had also

said the same thing that they would rather have the full high council. Hmm, interesting. Okay,

well, that's cool. So you, they let you come together. That's interesting. It seemed like when I was

with my stake president, he wanted to deny any request I'd possibly make. And it sounds like with

you guys, they were at least willing to kind of accommodate a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Like the

arstic president, like we still feel and we'll get in this later on, but he's super nice guy,

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