#542: When Breath Becomes Air

The Art of Manliness

Society & Culture, Education, Philosophy

4.7 • 14.5K Ratings

🗓️ 11 September 2019

⏱️ 52 minutes

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When Paul Kalanathi was 36 years old, he was on the cusp of finishing a decade's worth of training to become a neurosurgeon -- a profession he felt called to. But then he learned he had terminal stage four lung cancer. In a single moment, everything changed in his life. For the next twenty two months, Paul and his wife Lucy grappled with how to live life even when you know you have limited time left. In his last few months, Paul wrote a memoir about this search for meaning in life and death, as well as his experience as a medical student, neurosurgeon, and cancer patient. Entitled When Breath Becomes Air, the book was published shortly after he died. Today, I talk to Paul's widow, Dr. Lucy Kalanathi, about Paul's journey to uncover insights about meaning and significance during his time as both doctor and patient. Along the way, Lucy shares insights about the human side of healthcare, delivering and receiving bad news, and how your identity and sense of self changes when you're diagnosed with a terminal disease. She also shares her experience of being a widow and of the grieving process, as well as what to say and not say to someone who's grappling with a tragedy. Get the show notes at aom.is/breathbecomesair.

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0:00.0	Bret McKay here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness Podcast.
0:11.1	When Paul Kalanathy was 36 years old, he was on the cusp of finishing at decades worth
0:15.0	of training to become a neurosurgeon.
0:16.8	Professionally felt called to.
0:18.0	But then he learned he had a terminal stage for lung cancer.
0:20.8	In a single moment, everything changed in his life.
0:23.9	The next 22 months, Paul and his wife Lucy grappled with how to live life, even when you
0:28.0	know you have a limited time left.
0:29.6	In his last few months, Paul wrote a memoir about the search for meaning in life and
0:33.3	death, as well as his experiences of medical student, neurosurgeon, and cancer patient.
0:37.3	In title, when Bret becomes air, the book was published really after he died and was
0:40.4	nominated for the Pulitzer Prize.
0:41.9	Today, I talk to Paul's widow, Dr. Lucy Kalanathy, about Paul's journey to uncover insights
0:46.1	about meaning and significance during his time as both doctor and patient.
0:49.4	Along the way, Lucy shares insights about the human side of healthcare, delivering
0:53.1	and receiving bad news, and how your identity and sense of self changes when your diagnosis
0:57.0	for the terminal disease.
0:58.0	She also shares her experience of being a widow, not the grieving process, as well as what
1:02.2	to say and not to say, someone who's grappling with the tragedy.
1:05.5	After the show's over, check out our show notes at aowm.is slash breath becomes air.
1:13.0	Right, Lucy Kalanathy, welcome to the show.
1:23.6	Thanks so much for having me.
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